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  • Robert Luland
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 2075

    #31
    Well I got the ammonia brew a cooking. We shall see. As far as the reverse plating thing goes. Can you use a battery charger as your power source? Bob L
    AMCA #3149
    http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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    • rwm
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1302

      #32
      give it a try. i'm gonna try a toy train transformer. just try it on a junk part first.
      rob ronky #10507
      www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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      • Robert Luland
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 2075

        #33
        The part is the least of my worries. My eyes and the shop come first. Bob L
        AMCA #3149
        http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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        • Robert Luland
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 2075

          #34
          Well I guess its working? The copper is getting lighter and the ammonia has turned blue. Didn’t Ronco make something years ago on tv to take this stuff off?
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          AMCA #3149
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          • Robert Luland
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 2075

            #35
            Time to report on the science project. It works. Ammonia does take off copper. Slowly but it does work. In the picture you can see the air cleaner plate and the oil tank bracket cleaned right up. The battery tie downs are getting there. It not only dissolves it but gets under the plating. When I first pulled it out you could peel some of the copper off. Still haven’t been able to get it out of the cracks were the flag is spot welded to the shaft. This is the place that keeps showing up in the Parkerizing pot. Man! All this experament’en makes a guy thirsty! Later! Bob L
            AMCA #3149
            http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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            • exeric
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 5962

              #36
              Wow! Fantastic news Bob. I'm going to get some ammonia and get that process started. Thanks for commiting to the experiment.
              Eric Smith
              AMCA #886

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              • rwm
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 1302

                #37
                i got some chrome sitting in a brew of lye. it was hard to find a piece of chrome to sacrifiece but we will see how it goes
                rob ronky #10507
                www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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                • rwm
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 1302

                  #38
                  after 5 days the chrome is starting to fizz
                  rob ronky #10507
                  www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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                  • Robert Luland
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2075

                    #39
                    Well boys it’s been 52 days and three ammonia changes into the experiment. I deleted the last picture off Photobucket not realizing that it goes back there to retrieve every time you open the thread. Today I pull’em out and no copper. I Going to do one more time around in the beader for good measure and tomorrow into the soup. Sure would be nice to have a happy ending. I will do the final report tomorrow. Bob L
                    Last edited by Robert Luland; 11-14-2009, 07:05 PM.
                    AMCA #3149
                    http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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                    • Robert Luland
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2075

                      #40
                      Hold the presses. Soon as I beaded them the copper showed up in the creases. Back into the stew pot with'em. I'll let ya know in three weeks. Bob L
                      AMCA #3149
                      http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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                      • exeric
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 5962

                        #41
                        Bob, do you think the amonia would get under chrome and nickel to remove the copper? I was wondering if that would work on a beat-up chromed part that has copper and bare steel showing.
                        Eric Smith
                        AMCA #886

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                        • Robert Luland
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2075

                          #42
                          Eric as I said earlier. The ammonia seem to get under the copper plating as I was peeling pieces off. No matter what I do I can’t seem to get it out of the weld seams. I beaded this to no end and it’s still there. If the ammonia doesn’t work this time I’m just going to lightly weld over the seams. The ammonia seams to work really well on big fat areas as you can see in the photo. Bob L
                          AMCA #3149
                          http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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                          • Chris Haynes
                            Curmudgeon
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5939

                            #43
                            Somewhere, someplace I have an article from a very old Australian motorcycle magazine that has a formula for removing copper and chrome. It is a mixture of fertilizer and diesel. I know, it sounds like Tim McViegh at work. You mixed the two and used a trickle charger to strip metal bare.
                            Be sure to visit;
                            http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
                            Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
                            Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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                            • rousseau
                              hillbilly member
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 261

                              #44
                              hey Bob
                              I can't tell from your pics but, are you sure your not seeing brass in the seams. lot of brackets were Brazed on back in the day.

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                              • rwm
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1302

                                #45
                                ammonia will remove brass also. it wont work on chrome i have tried that. i tried chrome in lye and nothing came off .my plater claims i did it wrong. so i will try again in a bigger vat of lye. first time i used a mason jar. this time i will use a 1gallon bucket
                                rob ronky #10507
                                www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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