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  • rbrockhoff
    New Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 8

    #1

    Restore Original Paint

    I have a 1913 motorcycle that roughly half the original paint. I want to leave the original finish intact, but bring out as much of the original paint as possible and prevent additional rusting. I have heard that Gibbs is good for this purpose and have also had someone suggest mixing diesel and linseed oil. Does anyone have any experience with this type of thing?
  • 55tmm
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 157

    #2
    I used Gibbs,Kerosene,Marvel Mystery oil. 1/3 each mixed together in a spay bottle with good results on an orig. JD project.

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    • T. Cotten
      Gadfly from the Dumpster
      • Jun 2001
      • 8213

      #3
      rbrockhoff!

      Mayonaisse works.

      But I prefer to use what would have been used, as shown in the attachment.
      The formula hasn't changed, and a heat lamp or hotair gun melts it into faded or "chalked" paints for a durable shine with little effort.

      ....Cotten
      Attached Files
      AMCA #776
      Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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      • exeric
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 5962

        #4
        I'm glad you posted that Tom. I've been using Johnson's Wax to keep my bikes 'stable' here in the Florida humidity. Personally, I've not found a better product.
        Eric Smith
        AMCA #886

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        • c.o.
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2003
          • 5353

          #5
          Cotten! Thanks for mentioning that as well. I'm gonna try and keep that one in the memory bank!

          rbrockhoff.... 1913 eh? You've got me wondering in suspense.....
          Cory Othen
          Membership#10953

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          • rbrockhoff
            New Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 8

            #6
            Thanks for all of the suggestions. I have a 1913 Yale and I am looking for a look something like this old indian http://www.yesterdays.nl/indian-1912-single-pi-843.html I basically want the unrestored look, while preventing any future degradation in the original finish. I had not heard of Johnson's wax and I had not heard of the mix of Gibbs, Kerosene, and mystery oil. It sounds like I need to do some experimenting to figure out which will look best for my application.

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            • 55tmm
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 157

              #7
              My Bikes 032.jpgMy Bikes 036.jpg
              My JD after that 3 part mixture.

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              • Rod K
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 179

                #8
                Paint looks good. I like the nice low sheen. Any ideas for the cylinders. I have a 12 single cyl that looks very much like yours.
                I would like to keep it from rusting further. I can't bring myself to paint it.....Rod

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                • 55tmm
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 157

                  #9
                  Rod,
                  I sprayed it on my cylinders when it was first cleaned, but it just burns of when it runs, just recoat occasionally.

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                  • T. Cotten
                    Gadfly from the Dumpster
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 8213

                    #10
                    55tmm!

                    Doesn't that red MMO stain chalky paint?

                    Gibbs is new to me, what color is it?
                    Johnson's is old. And you can tint it if you really like to.....

                    I prefer a hard layer of protection before any volatile, other than petrolatum, of course!


                    ....Cotten
                    Attached Files
                    AMCA #776
                    Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                    • 55tmm
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 157

                      #11
                      I didn't seem to notice any discoloration,try an inconspicuous place first,
                      It was not my recipe but recommended by a restorer with good results on old rusty sheet metal.
                      Gibbs, now SP3 is also red in color, I'm learning other methods here as well and may try some.
                      I would hate to hear bad results because of me, use at your own comfort level. Thanks

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                      • ricmoran
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 260

                        #12
                        You might want to try this: http://www.carwell.com/products-cp-90.htm

                        In Canada this is known as Crown Rust Control. Their logo is seen on Speed Channel sometimes. Amazing stuff, it is red but when it goes on it turns clear and leaves a gun oiled finish look that does not harm paint.

                        No HAZMAT in the product as it is a petroleum hydrocarbon that is highly refined.

                        Parkerizing loves this stuff, lasts anywhere from 4 months to a year (for corrosion protection) depending on exposure and the real interesting thing is you can paint over the product if you wish. Apply, let it absorb into
                        the metal for 24 - 48 hours, soap and water the residual product off an paint.

                        Only oil based product I know of where tests performed by DuPont have shown zero interference with paint bonding.

                        Not that your going to want to paint the finish on your bike, but the protection the product offers is superb.

                        Also is the best product I've found in years for use with frozen fasteners. Treat, let the product sit for a few minutes (depending on how much scale has built up) and amazingly frozen fasteners come loose easily.

                        Have a friend who used this on his original paint VL. He said it is the best product he's ever used for bringing old paint back to life.

                        Tom, the wax you'd shown, looks like it is not manufactured anymore. Looked and did not see anything on the web.

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                        • exeric
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 5962

                          #13
                          Look for S.C. Johnson Paste Wax.
                          Eric Smith
                          AMCA #886

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                          • Rollo
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 599

                            #14
                            I was told years ago by a guy who is a tire expert (tests them for a living) that putting paste wax on your side walls will keep them form weather cracking also. It is basically what they used to use in tire molds as a releasing agent to let the new tire be taken out of the mold. Seems to work for me all these years.

                            Tom (Rollo) Hardy
                            AMCA # 12766

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                            • T. Cotten
                              Gadfly from the Dumpster
                              • Jun 2001
                              • 8213

                              #15
                              Rich!

                              I would get Johnson's Wax across the street at the hardware store, but I have several cans left from dumpsters. It is widely available.

                              Its good for polished leather too.

                              "Lemon Pledge", also an S.C. Johnson product, was great... until they changed it to a wax-free formula.

                              ....Cotten
                              AMCA #776
                              Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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