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    ive been asked to share the rustoration of my 1914 excelsior single belt drive - so here it starts

    I purchased this from dave lietner AWAY back in 1989 while at the oley meet
    it was original paint and about 85 % complete. unfortunately only 1 photo remains and currenly my scanners down - will post it when available

    it was put into storage for 18 years, and a few years ago brought it out to begin looking for the still missing parts, today its almost 100% complete with only a few things missing.

    over the last few years there are a few people who need praises for there help, these include rick wolfe, lonnie isam, tim thoele, bill campbell, mike terry, hope to add more to this list as this goes on.

    let the journey begin

    aka HAWG
    Attached Files
    1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
    1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
    1940 indian chief military
    1965 sportster xlch
    1969 sportster xlch bobber
    1971 bsa A65 chopper
    1969 harley ss350 sprint
    1960 harley topper
    1963 harley topper
    H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
    H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
    1949 harley model 125 bobber project
    1959 harley model 165
    1960 harley super 10
    1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
    EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

  • #2
    the first purchase I made for parts was about 2 months after oley.
    was at the canadian vintage motorcycle groups main meet ( paris) and a fellow approched my spot and memtioned he had a set of original tires for my bike. story went that his grandfather had purchased a 1913 pope in 1918, his mother ( great-great gramma ) did not want him owning a murdercycle, so he removed the rims and tires from the pope, hide the pope in the bush and the tires in the basement of the farmhouse, hoping mom would forget and be able to ride next summer. in spring returned to bush only to find pope gone.
    in 1920 he went to war and forgot about the rims/tires.

    in 1991 they were tearing down the old farmhouse and found the rims/tires hidden in the basement

    2 weeks after the paris show i owned the rims/tires here are first few pics others need to be resized to post
    tire reads dunlop anti-skid traction tread motorcycle tire 28 x 2 3/4

    tire 6.jpgtire 8.jpgtire 4.jpgtire 5.jpgtire 7.jpg

    aka HAWG
    Last edited by aka HAWG; 01-14-2014, 03:49 PM.
    1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
    1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
    1940 indian chief military
    1965 sportster xlch
    1969 sportster xlch bobber
    1971 bsa A65 chopper
    1969 harley ss350 sprint
    1960 harley topper
    1963 harley topper
    H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
    H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
    1949 harley model 125 bobber project
    1959 harley model 165
    1960 harley super 10
    1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
    EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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    • #3
      rest of the tire pics

      tire 10.jpgtire 9.jpgtire 2.jpg

      last pic shows the tread pattern

      aka HAWG
      1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
      1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
      1940 indian chief military
      1965 sportster xlch
      1969 sportster xlch bobber
      1971 bsa A65 chopper
      1969 harley ss350 sprint
      1960 harley topper
      1963 harley topper
      H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
      H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
      1949 harley model 125 bobber project
      1959 harley model 165
      1960 harley super 10
      1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
      EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

      Comment


      • #4
        Those lugs must have been perfect back then with the roads. Talk about mudders. Think Great grandma found the bike and pulled a fast one with it?
        AMCA #3149
        http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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        • #5
          here is earliest pic of the excelsior, taken in the fall of 1989.
          just after this it went into a 18 year hibernation. i was restoring a 1913 indian at the time

          those tires looked perfect on the bike

          1914 excelsior.jpg

          aka HAWG
          1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
          1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
          1940 indian chief military
          1965 sportster xlch
          1969 sportster xlch bobber
          1971 bsa A65 chopper
          1969 harley ss350 sprint
          1960 harley topper
          1963 harley topper
          H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
          H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
          1949 harley model 125 bobber project
          1959 harley model 165
          1960 harley super 10
          1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
          EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

          Comment


          • #6
            Ah.... early bike thread.... I'll be following along.... how far away are you from making it go "pop"? Cool tire story... bummer about the missing Pope!
            Cory Othen
            Membership#10953

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            • #7
              well cory it will not be as exciting as joe and your posts but hope to keep everyone interested.

              had motor appart a few years ago and every thing looked fine, will re-disassemble this winter to verify bore and ring gap. need to make gas and oil lines and re-assemble clutch to get motor to turn over - hope running by oley

              worked on putting troxel seat together ( parts from original and parts from carcuss that I bought last summer ) and un-seized the wheel adjusters.


              aka HAWG
              1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
              1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
              1940 indian chief military
              1965 sportster xlch
              1969 sportster xlch bobber
              1971 bsa A65 chopper
              1969 harley ss350 sprint
              1960 harley topper
              1963 harley topper
              H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
              H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
              1949 harley model 125 bobber project
              1959 harley model 165
              1960 harley super 10
              1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
              EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

              Comment


              • #8
                Interesting all the same. It's kinda cool once in awhile to have an early bike thread on a machine that isn't from Milwaukee...
                Cory Othen
                Membership#10953

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                • #9
                  fast forward to 2008, the excelsior is out of hibernation and starting to aquire missing parts
                  the bike is missing the clutch, belt tensioner, pedal cranks, brake parts, seat parts, and linkage for throttle and cluch and many other smalls
                  the first purchase is the pedal cranks and pedal crank sprocket.
                  the pedal cranks are raw castings so they need to be fitted. machine shop did the threads and I did the rest with a hand file and emmery cloth - thank god I was working at a job I could do this at work
                  following pics show the pedal crank work


                  aka HAWG
                  Attached Files
                  Last edited by aka HAWG; 01-21-2014, 12:46 PM.
                  1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                  1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                  1940 indian chief military
                  1965 sportster xlch
                  1969 sportster xlch bobber
                  1971 bsa A65 chopper
                  1969 harley ss350 sprint
                  1960 harley topper
                  1963 harley topper
                  H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                  H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                  1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                  1959 harley model 165
                  1960 harley super 10
                  1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                  EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    today looks at belt tensioner, this was purchased from tim theole
                    000_0151_1.jpg000_0154.jpg000_0152.jpg000_0153.jpg

                    aka HAWG
                    Last edited by aka HAWG; 01-22-2014, 04:57 PM.
                    1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                    1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                    1940 indian chief military
                    1965 sportster xlch
                    1969 sportster xlch bobber
                    1971 bsa A65 chopper
                    1969 harley ss350 sprint
                    1960 harley topper
                    1963 harley topper
                    H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                    H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                    1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                    1959 harley model 165
                    1960 harley super 10
                    1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                    EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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                    • #11
                      the pivot bolt was never drilled. this was a issue that needed attention but would have to wait till case seperation
                      test fitting the tensioner

                      000_0169.jpg000_0170.jpg000_0177.jpg

                      aka HAWG
                      1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                      1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                      1940 indian chief military
                      1965 sportster xlch
                      1969 sportster xlch bobber
                      1971 bsa A65 chopper
                      1969 harley ss350 sprint
                      1960 harley topper
                      1963 harley topper
                      H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                      H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                      1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                      1959 harley model 165
                      1960 harley super 10
                      1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                      EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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                      • #12
                        not much progress this week - too cold in garage due to "arctic vortex"

                        did try looking at oil and gas lines when I could - my oil dripper is a female thread and the check valve at the cam cover id a male thread, anyone have an extra oil line or at least the fittings any leads needed

                        here are some pics of the gas tank that needed work. its a copper tank

                        100_0591.jpg000_0161.jpg100_0592.jpg100_0486.jpg100_0476.jpg

                        at some time someone removed the lower fitting, unsoldered the tank to repair the wall between the oil and gas sides, removed the tabs for the belt rachet and removed the "bung" for the tank strap bolts to screw into. all things that need attention

                        more on tank work soon

                        aka HAWG
                        Last edited by aka HAWG; 02-01-2014, 05:55 PM.
                        1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                        1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                        1940 indian chief military
                        1965 sportster xlch
                        1969 sportster xlch bobber
                        1971 bsa A65 chopper
                        1969 harley ss350 sprint
                        1960 harley topper
                        1963 harley topper
                        H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                        H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                        1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                        1959 harley model 165
                        1960 harley super 10
                        1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                        EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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                        • #13
                          here are pics of tank re-soldered and fittings attached

                          june 49 cover 013.jpgjune 49 cover 010.jpgjune 49 cover 011.jpg

                          aka HAWG
                          1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                          1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                          1940 indian chief military
                          1965 sportster xlch
                          1969 sportster xlch bobber
                          1971 bsa A65 chopper
                          1969 harley ss350 sprint
                          1960 harley topper
                          1963 harley topper
                          H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                          H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                          1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                          1959 harley model 165
                          1960 harley super 10
                          1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                          EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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                          • #14
                            tank after rusteration process. tool box is original ( i think it was repainted in the mid teens to this green colour, inside tool box is still original grey coulour)
                            ex tank 001.jpgex tank 002.jpgex tank 003.jpg

                            aka hawg
                            1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                            1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                            1940 indian chief military
                            1965 sportster xlch
                            1969 sportster xlch bobber
                            1971 bsa A65 chopper
                            1969 harley ss350 sprint
                            1960 harley topper
                            1963 harley topper
                            H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                            H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                            1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                            1959 harley model 165
                            1960 harley super 10
                            1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                            EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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