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    1941 Indian Four, older restoration with matching numbers. No damage to the cases and an old Ken Young engine rebuild. This bike is about 95% original and a very good driver I would say. I drove it about 25 years ago. Has not run for about 22 years. Paint is not original, cases have never been blasted by any media. Chrome good. Speedometer correct and all sheet metal original.

    Been in a heated building the whole time and never run. Sorry no pics available so I know this is a real guess but what is a high and low value on this. I would like to buy it as the owner is ready. I am looking for a driver and not to restore. Thanks for any thoughts.
    #7558 Take me on and you take on the whole trailer park!

  • #2
    $40,000 is what I see most people asking for a runner, $25,000 for a good basket, $60,000+ for a nicely restored running bike.

    I may be off but I think I am in the values I gave are close.

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    • #3
      Post A Picture when you buy it

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Matt McManus View Post
        $40,000 is what I see most people asking for a runner, $25,000 for a good basket, $60,000+ for a nicely restored running bike.
        I try and watch any Indian Fours (and Hendersons) that show up on eBay and Matt's ball park pricing sounds about right to me ... Perry

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        • #5
          I appreciate the input so far but that is some large bills. I was going to offer 25k but now I don't know if I should or not. Don't want to insult him. I wonder about the motor after sitting this long..............
          #7558 Take me on and you take on the whole trailer park!

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          • #6
            Back in the '70's my cousin traded his 1941 Four to Walter Scott for a used 44 magnum. Walter retired to Corsicana, TX where he passed 15 or so years ago. I wonder if someone from the club picked up his bright red '41 Four? He also had a beautiful black '28 JD.
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            • #7
              Knuck, not sure if this is any help but in Starklite summer 2010 newsletter there`s a price guide of their opinion of average current US prices from magazines/auctions.
              for 40-42 Four

              1 star= National judged 95 point or higher $61,750
              2 star= Nice restorations but more for riding $45,500
              3 star= Average condition/older restoration runs well,good paint $31,000
              4 star= Needs work but complete with all parts , not necessarily running $22,500

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              • #8
                Thanks Greg, I think the value is starting to develop as the information rolls in on this. On this scale it seems to fall into a 3 star. Any other thoughts are welcome on this for sure. Recent sales that you have heard of are the best.
                #7558 Take me on and you take on the whole trailer park!

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                • #9
                  From what I have seen $40,000 to $45,000 seems to be normal pricing for an older rest that won't take to much to get it up and running.

                  Good luck with the purchase and let us all know how you go with it.

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                  • #10
                    Perfect cases, Ken Young low mileage motor, good chrome, good paint, kept in climate controlled garage, 40 all day long. Older restoration or not it sounds like it was well cared for. If you can get it for 35 or less you're a winner. Just my opinion.
                    D. A. Bagin #3166 AKA Panheadzz 440 48chief W/sidecar 57fl 57flh 58fl 66m-50 68flh 70xlh

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                    • #11
                      Howdy sir,

                      If this one’s truly that close to original (sheet metal down to 3 hinge tool boxes, correct fender trim on untrimmed fender tips, ignition switch, horn, correct ignition type to engine vin, heat risers, header, etc) “hindered”, so to speak, only by being laid up for 25 years, it’s easily worth $40k to the average enthusiast/curious first timer on the open market all day long much less a well informed AMCA’r specifically looking for an original looking rider. I’ve seen these trade privately at over $50K since both parties know at the end of the day what it takes to have/make an original looking 440-442 that is a road worthy machine.

                      One can spend thousands seeking out original patenaed cycle parts to retrofit post purchase to make their machine correct and the main issue with 30 plus year old Four engine rebuilds not done by the Ken Young types of that era current at the time on improvements is they’re often not fitted with an improved clutch which is indispensible for enjoying these machines as riders.

                      Where these are concerned your least risky bet is a 4 star laid out on the ground before you or a 1 star fully documented. It’s absolutely a mine field in between, especially when looking at stuff with no history. I get feedback at my site 1941 Indian Four – Unfinished Business – often asking to critique “nice resto’s for riding”, beyond the shiny, some are unbelievable. Yours would sound like a good old honest motorcycle not to be lumped in with the 2 and 3 star herds either by condition or pricing guide lines.
                      Cheerio,
                      Peter
                      #6510
                      1950 Vincent - A Red Rapide Experience

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Peter for more to think about.

                        Not sure about the tool box hinge count, fender trim is not original but looks correct type, tips never cut, sheet metal, ignition,horn, original. The heat riser are missing and header has porcelain type finish on it. I found an old picture taken of it many years ago and will post if I can later.

                        I feel lucky to "know" this bike and it makes me feel comfortable.
                        #7558 Take me on and you take on the whole trailer park!

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                        • #13
                          Here's a four that sounds comparable that just ended for 41K ... Perry

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