Saturday evening post

[Chris Haynes]

[T. Cotten]

Back to handlebars,
I finally retrieved this pic of a Stellings and Hellings decal upon a local '46 Chief.

...Cotten
PS: Chris!
Just think how rich you would be if you had copyrighted!

[Chris Haynes]

As for Ray Weisaar and his mascot; that's a pig not a hog.

It was a Hog when it grew up. Stories I have heard is the Pig/Hog was with the team for a long time.

[Chris Haynes]

Hey Chris!
Not that you are not an authority, but just saying so is still anecdotal.
As I posted, I really look forward to evidence on this question.

...Cotten

OK Cotten,
I was calling them Hogs before 1965.

[exeric]

I don't think anyone can produce evidence of the origin of "HOG". My opinion is, it was coined by post WW2 racers and outlaws to express their disdain for the increasingly gawdy, overloaded dressers. As for Ray Weisaar and his mascot; that's a pig not a hog. There is a big difference and most Americans in those days would have known that. Besides; if I called Ray Weisaar's Harley a hog, I'll bet he would have popped me in the nose.

[T. Cotten]

Hey Chris!
Not that you are not an authority, but just saying so is still anecdotal.
As I posted, I really look forward to evidence on this question.

...Cotten

[Chris Haynes]

They were callin' them Hogs long before 1965.

[T. Cotten]

Hog epithet

I, too, am very curious as to the approximate date of the nickname: "Hog".

My local yokels attributed it to the first 'five-gallon' tanks. And the style was still to overload them, from the perspective of contemporary Brit and sport bike lovers anyway... (Who else would coin such a name?)

Just one hard-evidence example would put that to rest easily. But no anecdotes please!

Thanks in advance,

....Cotten

[HarleyCreation]

I really don't want to speak for Kevin or officially interpret the handbook but this question usually comes up at the Judge's Breakfast before every event. I think what Kevin means is that the bike should have all the original equipment that came with a "canned" option package, like a Deluxe Solo option group, no substitutions as you say. Things that were strictly add-ons are treated as I mentioned above. So, a bike that did not originally come with saddle bags could have anything that was available at the time.

But, after looking at the cover photo that Barry posted earlier, I would also guess that there are limits. Just how much is TOO much is another question.

Mike

Thanks. That explains things.

Nice avatar photo!

[HarleyCreation]

I believe this is where the term "HOG" was first applied, or garbage barge was another popular term for these things.

Actually Hog came from the racing teams mascott, shown here with Ray Weisaar as a piglett, but grew to full hog size.

You guys bring up a great question. When was the term "hog" first applied to a Harley-Davidson motorcycle?

Not what we are told by modern myth-makers, but the oldest ACTUAL occurance of the term found in old mags or other literature. Real proof.

It would be fun to write about this subject sometime too.

[HarleyCreation]

Herb,
Here are a couple pics of some old Brookfield bags. The smaller one is the common size on rigid machines, the larger is typically mounted to a Duo-Glide. The big one is large enough to basically put a '60s fiberglass bag inside with room to spare. They are truly big!
Robbie

Those look similar to my pair of short fringers. I'll have to go up in my attic and find the one.

Mine must be the smaller rigid size. The set of 3 (bags & seat) I saw hanging up in Pater's H-D maybe were size HUGE for Duo-Glide. They sure looked big to me at the time.

[HarleyCreation]

MMMMMMH... Bacon raised on Coca Cola

Yeah, what gives? Those were Milwaukee guys. Shouldn't that piggy be guzzling Beer City suds like Kobe beef in Japan?

Oh, I forgot, photo was taken after Prohibition began! One sad day in Milwaukee....

MMMMMMH... Bacon raised on Coca Cola

[Chris Haynes]

I believe this is where the term "HOG" was first applied, or garbage barge was another popular term for these things. But yet out of all that clutter I see something interesting. Anyone else notice the shocks with the half covers?

Actually Hog came from the racing teams mascott, shown here with Ray Weisaar as a piglett, but grew to full hog size.

[bmh]

How about this on the cover of Walneck's, November 1992. Brookfield saddle looks nice but the rest????? ( I like cabbage cutters)

I believe this is where the term "HOG" was first applied, or garbage barge was another popular term for these things. But yet out of all that clutter I see something interesting. Anyone else notice the shocks with the half covers?