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    I thought about putting this in the tech section but does anyone look there? I would like some advice from all you "patination" experts out there on how to age the aluminum skin of my recently built sidecar body so that it resembles the look of this incredible GN/JAP race car I saw at Prescott in 2008. The builder's name is Richard Scaldwell and for those curious the engine is an air cooled circa 1908 J.A.P. aircraft engine and is reportedly very fast.

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    HERE IS THE SIDECAR BODY THAT WILL BE MATED UP TO A BARN FRESH 1927 HENDERSON.

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    • #3
      Here's what one of those English bullet sidecars looks like on a Henderson.

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        AND ON A BRAND NEW 1932 INDIAN 4 . HERB AND PAT RADMORE, MONTREAL INDIAN AGENT

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        • #5
          my canoe looks aged after a few weeks in the water.
          rob ronky #10507
          www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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            http://www.finishing.com/4400-4599/4535.shtml
            rob ronky #10507
            www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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            • #7
              Barry,
              After I've bead blasted gearbox cases, crankcases, etc I put them into a large preserving pan with at least 12 to 15 lemons cut in half and boil them for at least 30 to 60 minutes.
              When removing them you must be very carefull not to touch them as you fingerprint will be on there for ever.
              Rinse them in hot water and hang somewhere to dry but as soon as the water disappears and the castings are still hot spray them liberally with WD 40 or something similar.
              The WD 40 will be drawn into the pores of the alloy and stops any corrosion or oxidation in the future.
              This results in a casting that looks beautifully clean but at the same time aged looking.
              Now I'm not saying you boil your sidecar body but it might be worth a try, with a small bit of scrap alloy, of rubbing a cut lemon on it and seeing what happens.
              I've always used lemons as we have a tree and there's always plenty about but
              I suppose some sort of citric acid could do the same job, I just don't know as I've never tried it.
              Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
              A.M.C.A. # 2777
              Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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              • #8
                well we unfortunately have no lemon trees here but sounds like it's worth a try. I am sure Bert Munro would approve! Thanks for the idea.

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                • #9
                  sounds encouraging! Thanks!

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                    Barry!

                    Since you have such large areas to work with, I suggest a darkening agent that you can then dress back off selectively with 0000 steel wool, allowing you to experiment with technique as you go, to produce a seasoned-but-cleaned appearance.

                    My choice is available from http://www.jaxchemicals.com/.

                    Good luck!


                    ....Cotten
                    AMCA #776
                    Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by T. Cotten View Post
                      Barry!

                      Since you have such large areas to work with, I suggest a darkening agent that you can then dress back off selectively with 0000 steel wool, allowing you to experiment with technique as you go, to produce a seasoned-but-cleaned appearance.

                      My choice is available from http://www.jaxchemicals.com/.

                      Good luck!


                      ....Cotten
                      sounds good, I will try everything and post pics when done. Have a great holiday!

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                      • #12
                        Barry what an incredible looking piece of work that thing needs to go on your crazzy hotrod for the aesthetics alone
                        Joe

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Slojo View Post
                          Barry what an incredible looking piece of work that thing needs to go on your crazzy hotrod for the aesthetics alone
                          Joe
                          I know what you are saying and the thought did cross my mind. All of a sudden I have 2 sidecars and I don't even like the damn things!

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                            Originally posted by Barry Brown View Post
                            I know what you are saying and the thought did cross my mind. All of a sudden I have 2 sidecars and I don't even like the damn things!
                            Barry. To funny I know what you mean they can turn a perfectly good motorcycle into an F-250. Hope I have not upset you side car guys out there.
                            Joe

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                            • #15
                              Whats wrong with an F 250?
                              Be sure to visit;
                              http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
                              Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
                              Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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