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    July 1, 2009 at 12:33 pm
    by: Allison Bricker

    BATF Agent


    HOUSTON, TEXAS - The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF) agents are in the midst of fanning out across Texas in order to conduct house by house investigations into what the agency deems numerous “suspicious” firearms transactions and as a means to combat “narco-terrorism” along the U.S. /Mexican border.

    In fact, the “suspicious” transaction searches are so loosely defined, that BATF agents ended up questioning a Houston area pastor who previously purchased two handguns for target practice, which is then flippantly chalked up as “hard to believe”. Additionally, interagency cooperation between the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and the BATF have led to warrantless airplane surveillance of vehicles along the border.

    After speaking to five offices within the agencies and being told by several agents they felt “uncomfortable” with my line of questioning, Special Agent, Public Information Officer Perot of the BATF, indicated that aerial surveillance does not require a warrant due to it taking place with the “public sphere” thereby meaning individuals should have no expectation of privacy.

    perhaps even more alarming to Constitutionalists and civil libertarians than an “eye in the sky” with carte blanche authority to surveil, is the fact that the door to door firearms checks come at the behest of a foreign government. In 2008 alone, the Mexican government requested the BATF track down the original owner of 7,500 firearms used in drug crimes at American taxpayer expense.

    “Ever turning up the heat on cartels, our law enforcement and military partners in the government of Mexico have been working more closely with the ATF by sharing information and intelligence,”

    Kenneth Melson
    Acting Director
    BATF

    Moreover, federal agents lament the tedious difficulty in conducting door to door firearm checks due to a current federal law prohibiting the use of a centralized database for gun owners. Alternatively, Mr. Eric Pratt of “Gun Owners of America” believes that a centralized database would only end up further infringing upon the inherent rights of law abiding gun owners. He goes on to state that criminals will still develop and expand avenues in order to arm themselves regardless of a behemoth centralized registry, just as they have after each previous “needed” addition to the nation’s gun laws. Further, by his analysis this is merely another attempt by federal authorities to scapegoat lawful gun owners when the crux of the issue is really one of border control, or lack thereof.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by aka HAWG View Post
    or lack thereof.
    Hit the nail on the head.
    Ride 'em. Don't hide 'em.
    Dan #6938 FUBO

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    • #3
      Every time I hear a story like this, it breaks my heart – that our government could turn on the American people this way. If you want to help then get involved, become a member of the NRA or the GOA. Start something and get involved, State wide and County wide, it’s grass roots that count here, this is the one that brings down the little politicians whining scum, NOW before they become big ones.
      1-800-NRA-JOIN
      Bob L.
      AMCA #3149
      http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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      • #4
        ask the apache about broken harts i bet they wish they had joined the nra i hear people telling illegals to speak the language. well my cherokee is not to good. home land security has been an unresolved issue 230 years
        rob ronky #10507
        www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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        • #5
          I was gonna post that on the gun topic Chris had posted. Glad you saw fit to put it up here. One piece at a time ! Remember that !!!! Paps

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          • #6
            Try this one out............

            It is the month of April, on the shores of the Black Sea.

            It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted.

            These are tough times; everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.

            Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.

            He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.

            The hotel proprietor takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.

            The Butcher takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the pig grower.

            The pig grower takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel.

            The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the town's prostitute that in these hard times, has graciously proffered her "services" on credit.

            The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 Euro note to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.

            The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 Euro note back on the counter.

            At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 Euro note, saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.

            No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism.

            And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government under President B.H. Obama is doing business today.

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            • #7
              Hookers on credit! Now that’s a motorcycle related topic!
              AMCA #3149
              http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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              • #8
                Hey HAWG, aren't you Canadain? Can you even own a gun up there?
                Louie
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                • #9
                  ya I am, yes I can but do not - GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE WITH GUNS KILL PEOPLE

                  like my other post in the gun registration - canadians have the right to bare breasts - I would rather live in that land than one that has the right to arm bears no that is bear arms

                  why can't I tease out brother to the south ( usa ) just like at home you can always pick on your brother - the reason for calling this post american freedom at its best

                  I guess some people just cant take all this funnin'

                  aka HAWG
                  1914 EXCELSIOR BELT DRIVE SINGLE
                  1914 excelsior belt drive single carcuss
                  1940 indian chief military
                  1965 sportster xlch
                  1969 sportster xlch bobber
                  1971 bsa A65 chopper
                  1969 harley ss350 sprint
                  1960 harley topper
                  1963 harley topper
                  H model whizzer on cheiftain bicycle
                  H model whizzer on schwinn bicycle
                  1949 harley model 125 bobber project
                  1959 harley model 165
                  1960 harley super 10
                  1974 indian 70cc dirt bike
                  EXCELSIOR - ALWAYS MAKES GOOD

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LouieMCman View Post
                    Hey HAWG, aren't you Canadain? Can you even own a gun up there?
                    Marc lepine had a legally owned Sturm ruger assault rifle .

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                    • #11
                      I miss my guns.
                      I miss my motorcycles.

                      I could walk to the bar across the street and talk guns all night, and it would be alright.

                      But discussing old motorcycles, with old guns, would be better here.

                      I'm already in the choir, so must I remind our bretheren that too much preaching in the wrong alley is not always a good thing.

                      The whole world really is watching you.
                      I mean,... if SilentGreyFello already feels exposed,.. Think about it!


                      ...Cotten
                      AMCA #776

                      "Paranoia is the only disorder known to save lives.".... Dr. Huzed Datwun
                      AMCA #776
                      Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                      • #12
                        Dear All,

                        I just don't think this is the place for political discussions. There is no difference between having a discussion in this forum on gun control or abortion or any other political topic. It seems to me that these dicussions could only be detrimental to the Club. If a person who is thinking about joining this Club comes on the website to check it out, and sees all this political chat and decides not to join our Club it would be a crying shame. This doesn't mean that I don't agree with what some of you are saying, but there is a time and place for everything, and this is not the place in my opinion. There are other chatrooms on other websites where you can have political discussions to your heart's content.

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                        • #13
                          If it wasn't allowed...I could keep me mouth shut.

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                          • #14
                            Black Sea Economic Model

                            So... please help me to understand.

                            6 businesses are able to clear an outstanding debt.
                            6 businesses recieve payment on accounts receivable, clearing some dead wood from their books.

                            The hotel proprietor speculating the Future, thinking that he would have the money when the Rich Tourist paid for the room, speculated and paid an old debt he had, from profits he had not yet earned, with money he had had no legal right to. If he had not been able to produce the money when the the tourist Called for the Note, what would the Propietor do ? He would probably contact the hooker to let her clear her debt making the tourist feel better about being robbed of the 100 Euros and \ or go to Jail. { No B__ls, no Blue Chips !}

                            The Tourist was paid no interest for the Loan he had unwittingly made to the Proprietor.

                            Money changing hands stirs the ecomomy and creates money, right ?

                            Futures Speculation has been around a lot longer than the current adminstration or the prior adminsistration. {... with April corn selling at $.$$ up from December $0.25 while November pork bellies are off $0.75 .. .. }

                            Speculation on the success of businesses in the trade of Futures Speculation is one of the business practices that has dug our ecomomy into the hole we are in.

                            " And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the United States Government under President B.H. Obama is doing business today. "

                            As a statement of, " this is the state of business today " and " we are now living in America under the administration of President B.H.Obama " O. K.

                            How many prior administrations did busines in an era when trade in the Futures Market existed ? Did this administration create Futures trading ? Did the system collapse under this administration ?

                            Or did the Rich Tourist arrive on the Black Sea coast with his 100 Euro note at the Meryll Lynch Enron Lehman Sterns AIG Hotel sometime last November- December ?

                            "However the whole town is now without debt and looks to the future with a lot of optimism. " Problem ?

                            Oh , I see, the problem was that is is raining and no one could ride their motorcycles
                            William McClean
                            AMCA # 60

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                            • #15
                              This could have all been avoided if that rich tourist had just taken the damn room.
                              ------------
                              Steve
                              AMCA #7300

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