Forum Vote

[flat-happy]

it was fictional for those actors but believe me it was not a fictional scenario back in those years

[Greg H]

JSB55, pretty mutch the same as you here
Not much understanding of gun thread pros/cons/politics as i sit here in the UK.
Although something came to mind related to motorcycles "Easyrider"
though that`s just a fictional film

[JSB55]

I'm a New Member (2 months), but joined to learn more about maintaining and restoring old iron and *related* topics such as meets, runs, reliable vendors and competent restoration services, plus, of course, History.

[chicagohen]

A Model A Ford Forum I read regularly banned political posts and personal attacks about six months ago. It got to the point that they overwhelmed the posts for technical info, show and swap meet info and other car related topics. Granted that forum did not have catagories like this one where "open topics" can be slotted but I expect to see some pretty inflammatory exchanges, particularly over politics. I guess we can see what happens and delete it later if it becomes to devisive. After all, we band together for the good of the hobby with our common love and interest in old bikes and it seems ashame that the bonds could be torn apart due to things not motorcycle related.

Steve Ciccalone

[exeric]

I just got back from a 15 mile bicycle ride which is great medicine for clearing your head and fixing an attitude. I want to apologize to 45OZ for losing my temper. I like the forum the way it is and we have all wandered off topic. Every one of us is guilty of it but it's usually done in passing for fun or to illustrate a point of view, and then that's it. The problem with controversial topics and hot button items like gun control is, it will never come to a conclusion. These topics are too complex and ever changing to be resolved. Also, these topics are as passionate as Antique Motorcycles and people have STRONG views on both sides. This voting thing means nothing. It's not binding or enforceable and will have no bearing on the topics club members want to post. I just think it would be great if we could keep this forum away from the rest of the world and go back in time with our old bikes.

[exeric]

As I read the post here so far a total of 14 it appears the 13 of them are in favor of this Parking Lot Chatter" to be an open uncensored Forum, yet the votes tend to sway toward censorship & are done Anonymously. It's funny how those that want to censor anothers thoughts & ideas fail to state any of their own. If you want censorship please state why you think that is good so I may educate myself further who knows you may change someones mind, or is censorship just a Backroom deal?

I used the voting option that the club provided and it was my choice to make the votes anonymous. There was no damn conspiracy to promote censorship. Personally, I see this gun thing turning into a loyalty oath to see where people stand politically. Everyone else was just having a good time talking about motorcycles and now it's all about how American you are, or what side of the isle you're on. I guess it was inevitable. Whenever you have a good thing, someone's going to screw it up. This voting thing was all my idea so blame me and call me whatever you want. By the way 45OZ. I don't see your damn name and AMCA# at the bottom of your post.

[Robert Luland]

Lets get real folks. The Parking lot is great just the way it is. Everything you can think about has already past though it. Love, divorce, booze, sex and O yea that motorcycle thing! Leave just the way it is. If ya don't wan't to read it just read the topic and bail out. The information age is about fredom! That thread wouldn't have the amount of replys if it was something we didn't care about. bob L

[Rollo]

At this point I would say leave things as they are. Open to discussion! I am not sure if non-AMCA members can access this site and the forum topics so if they can't it is all "in house" so to speak. If they can then I guess moderators or soemone like Kevin will have to figure out how to keep the general public off here. While we may not all share the same view I do think it is important to allow folks to express their views in an uncensored way. You need to keep it non personal though or PM if you have serious personal issue with someone. I personally have enjoyed reading the post and agree with what seems to be the consensus but also respect others right to their opinion even if it is wrong.

[45OZ]

As I read the post here so far a total of 14 it appears the 13 of them are in favor of this Parking Lot Chatter" to be an open uncensored Forum, yet the votes tend to sway toward censorship & are done Anonymously. It's funny how those that want to censor anothers thoughts & ideas fail to state any of their own. If you want censorship please state why you think that is good so I may educate myself further who knows you may change someones mind, or is censorship just a Backroom deal?

[bmh]

While I agree that all is fair for parking lot conversation, there are plenty of sites where one can discuss politics and such and I do not click on threads that don't interest me. I also don't see the forum getting diluted with all sorts of things but I must state that I visit this forum for the knowledge base that is represented here in regards to old motorcycles. I purposely don't visit or participate in a lot of other motorcycle related sites because of the seemingly low quality of the input or attitudes found there and would hate to see those type things start to creep up here. So converse as you will, I for one will be sticking to things bike related.

[45OZ]

This is a forum devoted to parking lot chatter I feel that means that any subject that you would discuss at a swap meet parking lot is fare game to discuss here. l Have discussed Motorcycle's, Politic's, Weapon ownership, Family issues all at swap meets with friends. Some of the topics discussed here I would not have been aware of that effect my life & hobby had they not been allowed to be discussed. I do not work in an office nor to I have access to a computer all day long it is limited to a few hours (if that) in the evening, So I must choose what sites to visit, It's nice to be able to read the comments here & educate myself on issues that I would not normaly be aware of.
I feel that things here are just fine & change is not needed, I also am not aware of any topics that could not be motorcycle related, if this is about the discussion on Gun Control, Then if you own a military bike & want to make it authentic you would need to mount a scabbord & Rifle to the bike, Hence if gun control laws are escalated you will no longer be able to make your bike authentic without breaking the law, or haveing to pay the goverment an extra $50 a year tax just to enjoy your hobby.
I always felt that America is the place for freedom of speech & there is no greater testament to that fredom than the ability to discuss what is on your mind with friends & excange ideas on different subject to expand your knowledge. To limit what can & cannot be disscused after it has been established that it IS OK would be a form of Censorship & do we really want to go in that direction? I personally do not, I will read everyones comments & be able to agree or disagree in a calm educated fashion.
I have also seen more combated discussion on this forum about "Motorcycle Related Topics" (Who makes good & crappy Saddles, What thread should be used on seats) Than I have read on the so called "non motorcycle" Topics.
So in conclusion The Forum is just fine as it is if it is changed or Limited to Certain Topics who would decide what is allowed & what is not? & how would the members know why that choice was made? & Why ?That's just putting some person in the position of censoring what we read & remember one mans opinion may not be the same as another , that is what makes cencorship such an UN AMERICAN CHOICE. Does the AMCA Want to be UN-AMERICAN?
I think not so leave things as they are unless you choose the later
just my 2 cents in a discussion among friends.
Thank You

[T. Cotten]

I vote as the topic suggests but I believe in majority rules. Paps

Good thing there was no bias in how it was suggested, right?

What if we think of it as:

Allow non-motorcycle topics

or

Censor non-motorcycle topics

It is obvious that a problem is being created where none existed.
When a Freedom is lost, it is lost by All.

Even if it is an inconvenience to those who cannot restrain their mouse finger from obvious off-topics.

...Cotten
Still can't find vote button after I post 'reply', but I think I've made up my mind.

[rwm]

i vote for a non motorcycle thread. you don't need to click on a thread if you dont like it what if there was the internet when they forced helmet laws? maybe a different law today all 50 states could be helmet free.as a club member i will respect the end vote.

[Paps]

I vote as the topic suggests but I believe in majority rules. Paps

[motorhead1]

Leave it like it is. Why split hairs?