An honest question about new bikes on national road runs - what do you think?

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  • chuckthebeatertruck
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 676

    #1

    An honest question about new bikes on national road runs - what do you think?

    For several years, the AMCA has seemingly allowed riders of a certain age to ride ANY bike they like on a national road run. I noticed this creep in starting with the 2020 Badger run. It was about 5% of the riders, then.

    Over the years, it has creeped up with about 10% of riders on national meets I have attended being on new bikes. And I mean new bikes, often less than 10 years old.

    The Black Hills Run hit a new high. At lunch on the second day, one in five bikes in the parking lot that I counted were built in the last ten years. One was a 1997, but that was the “old” new bike. Many new bikes were painted to look older, but were not amca eligible.

    There was a waiting list for the black hills run. This means folks on modern bikes took spots from those who may have run actual amca eligible bikes. We keep selling out national runs very fast, showing there is more demand than spots.

    I STRONGLY disagree with modern bikes being on our AMCA National Runs. I believe we must enforce the 35 year rule and that a rider’s age doesn’t have a thing to do with the organizing principle of using 35 years or older bikes as intended by their makers.

    As the avg age of club members goes up, there is an actual risk of our national runs being dominated by new bikes.

    I just don’t see why someone riding a 900 pound modern Harley Big Twin can’t ride a 1980s model. Electric start, dead reliable, and disc brakes, whether 1985 or 2015 models. I can’t really see the reason for allowing modern bikes.

    So, am I the only one who thinks it’s weird that folks are allowed to ride modern bikes on an antique club run?

    While it’s true you don’t have to own or ride an antique bike to be in the AMCA, we don’t allow older folks to enter a 2015 bike in judging just because they are older, so why do we allow a 2015 bike on a road run based on the rider’s age? Either you have a bike that qualifies for the activity offered by AMCA, or you don’t.

    btw, I support CHAPTERS setting whatever rules they like. I’m only talking about National Road Runs.

    And, does anyone know what the actual rule is about modern bikes and whether the national board ever voted on it?
  • joe fxs fxr
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 688

    #2
    I didn't know that. I agree with you too.
    AMCA #41287
    1971 Sprint SS350 project
    1972 FX Boattail Night Train
    1972 Sportster project
    1973 HD Golf Cart project
    1979 FXS 1200 never done playing
    1989 Springer Softail project
    1998 Dyna Convertible - 100% Original
    96" Evo Softail self built chopper
    2020 Heritage Classic 114
    plus 15 other bikes over the years...

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    • jcrawford
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2002
      • 134

      #3
      This is my recollection from several years ago:
      Bud Cattlet was a well respected older AMCA member of the Ft. Sutter chapter, who was a retired police officer (Sacramaento, I believe) and was also curator of motorcycles at the Harrah's collection for a long time. I was at a Ft. Sutter Chapter AMCA Road Run and Bud was riding a BMW (/2 model as I recall) that was not yet 35 yrs. old. It was said there that being a senior age member, he could participate on a motorcycle of his choice, even if it was less than less than 35 yrs. old. This became known (unofficially, I suppose) as "the Bud Cattlet Rule".
      (This is only background information and not AMCA National Road Run policy, as far as I know.)

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      • Rubone
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 4771

        #4
        I recall that happening since the '90s on Nationals. And with the aging out of older members I see it potentially increasing. It has always been allowed for guests to also ride what they liked despite the 35 year law. Used to see wives and family riding with members on non compliant bikes. It never bothered me at all.
        Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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        • exeric
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 5995

          #5
          I have to agree with Steve. Going to an out-of-state road run is an expensive proposition with transport, hotels, food, etc., hence AMCA road run participants generally having access to a chunk of disposable income. The AMCA is (supposedly) an 'antique motorcycle' club with a 35 year rule which means state of the art, modern motorcycles from 1991 are viewed as 'antique'. If a member can afford the expense of an AMCA road run, that person should have no trouble finding a '91 or earlier American, Asian, European bike with disk brakes, and all the bells and whistles that modern bikes have today. Honda made many capable bikes before 1991 and they are very affordable and fit the ethos of a club that is suppose to promote antique motorcycles. I have ridden old Harleys in groups including modern bikes. . . Never again.
          Eric Smith
          AMCA #886

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