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  • From the Editor summer issue 2026

    So Edwards writes that it was a sin for moto manufactures to have been objectifying women in their 60's and 70's advertising.
    Well the 60's were slightly ahead of my time, but i recall the later years very well. And i recall
    the anxiety i felt when Cycle World (under editor Edwards) and other "straight" moto magazines started to clean out attractive women from both their magazine cover shots and advertising content. Mind you, the covers of these magazines were never as racey as the Norton Girls , et al, but they still appealed to the young American males perusing news stands for motorcycle lit. i actually was a subscriber to Cycle World since they bought out Cycle magazine and rolled over my subscription. I was a big fan of Edwards and Pete Eagan and read them with enthusiasm every month. That enthusiasm was dampened when they so called cleaned up their objectifying content. i remember there was one ad for aftermarket Harley type merchandise whom kept their enticing female ad in the magazine for a few months still. i imagine it was contract related. But yet it was a stark reminder of how the magazine just gave up on folks such as myself. Young men.
    And perhaps even those men still young at heart. i tried to console myself that their reason was to trying to attract more female readers. But of course the real reason was political correctness. Basically the first salvo against the American male in society.

    So how did they do? None of these magazines including Cycle World are in print today. Talk about dismissing the hand that feeds you. And they cant use the print is dead excuse as several counter culture type moto mags are readily available in print today. God bless them!

    I also care to point out what may appear as a certain amount of hypocrisy involved. The LeeAnn Cycle World cover in 1999 was blatant use of a returning staffer seductively poised with a Dreer Commando with the heading "She's Back" , presumably hyping the return of Norton motorcycles. Yeah right! LOL!
    And what about Edwards himself? One cant really tell from the printing above his heading in our club magazine, but one can easily check out his motorcycle called Behind the Eightball on the internet. Check out how it traveled the country in the Guggenheim Art of the Motorcycle show sporting objectifying tank graphics.A sexy lady showing a lot of leg.
    Oh but its supposedly a take on period WW2 nose art? Come off it David!
    You are not the protector of women in the wind , or in print, you make yourself out to be. I respect you contributions to motorcycling over the years. I have had rewarding conversations with you on the once popular Cycle world Forums. You have done a great job on things like the von Dutch bike and others. As a former Indian bobber owner myself i love your Scout. But this issue i am writing about here has bugged me for decades.









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      Now that is a well written letter, and opening salvo, hacksaw01. If men, and women stop objectifying each other it will be the same as the loss of pollinating honeybees; as Einstein implied, no bees, no humans. Needless to say, no one is promoting overt sexuality in the antique motorcycle world but censoring (ignoring) reality, and human behavior has never ended well in history.
      Eric Smith
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        thank you for the kind reply. Einstein is one of my all time heroes. i agree with both of you regarding the bees and reality.

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        • #5
          Well said by both of you!

          (I meant hacksaw01 and Eric... Einstein was good too though)
          Last edited by droptopford; 07-24-2026, 07:31 AM.

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          • #6
            One other point struck me as I read that editorial. The author wrote: "Honda needed its squeaky clean “You Meet the Nicest People” ad campaign, still a few years in the future, just to make up for that bit of perviness." (referring to Honda's earlier Christmas ad).

            My opinion (and I remember those ads well) is that the not-so-subtle message was that Honda people are not like those scary unwashed Harley people.

            Whether or not Honda needed to atone for their pervy Christmas ad is debatable. I'm waiting for them to atone for denegrating me. How's that for self-righteous new-found sensitivity!
            Last edited by droptopford; 07-24-2026, 08:13 AM.

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              droptopford. good point. i dont recall the pervy christmas ad. did Cycle World publish it? who were the nicest people anyway? i had hondas in the early 70's. and i wasnt treated by the general public like i was a nicest person.

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              • #8
                I'm going to take the opposing view here. When I was a young teen, I needed to see pictures of sexy women to build up my "spank bank". Since I wasn't allowed to buy Playboy, I had to rely on bike magazines and Snap-On calendars at local gas stations. But this was when society held women in low regard. I've grow up, and so have most of us. Only the most Neaderthal man still thinks this way. Derided as un-feminine, the so-called Women's Lib movement proved that women can be equal or better than men in most situations, and deserve to be treated as such. It's taken many years for society as a whole to realize that half of the population has a lot more to offer than looks. Kayla Yaackov is a current example in our sport. So yeah, while I enjoyed seeing pretty women and still do, you can't be serious when you say lack of pretty women has caused the decline of print magazines. Try to find Field and Stream on a shelf,.it became an online-only publication in 2020. Times change my friend.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hacksaw01 View Post
                  droptopford. good point. i dont recall the pervy christmas ad. did Cycle World publish it? who were the nicest people anyway?
                  I don't remember the Christmas ad either. I do remember the TV and print ads declaring that "You meet the nicest people on a Honda". The ads showcased all American, clean-cut looking young men and women. Nothing wrong with that; lots of the MoCo's ads featured the same kind of people. There was just something about the delivery that made it obvious they were setting their riders apart from the not-so-nice people who rode those other bikes!

                  Originally posted by hacksaw01 View Post
                  i had hondas in the early 70's. and i wasnt treated by the general public like i was a nicest person.
                  Me too... and me neither!
                  A lot of that was my own fault though. A 16 year old kid on a Honda 160 wearing a German helmet with a spike on it was bound to induce a negative reaction from the general public.

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                  • #10
                    When it comes to getting society, and culture wrong, you can count on modern politics, science, entertainment, journalists, and advertising to be vacuous about the true feelings of the masses. The big question is; are they stupid, or do they actually know more than we common folk may think? That is a cynical comment on my part but I have come to conclusion that I am way too dumb, and clueless to understand how humanity works; so, I now just try to enjoy every day, and struggle to be less judgmental. . . (Although it is a lot of fun to be judgmental). On topic, I recall that there were quite a few Asian choppers in the '70s so that badass attitude was prevalent throughout the motorcycle culture in the U.S. When I think about that time, and my observational experience I have to say that the "square" motorcyclist that manufacturers wanted to portray were the anomalies and NOT the people that were actually buying and riding loud dirt bikes, fast Asian bikes, and modified Triumphs, and H-Ds because that is what you saw the most of. I think it was the 1970s that had the greatest effect on motorcycling to follow because of favorable economics; but most of all the maturing of the 'baby-boom' generation that cancelled the good bikers from our parents' generation and replaced them with materialistic, well financed, spoiled(?) ego-centric, but creative individuals that flourished in the '70s. That's a 2 edged sword for me because I was smack dab in the middle of that and it was a wonderful time to be an American, to discover a wide open America in the midst of a massive culture shift.. I thank Easy Rider magazine for baiting the motorcycle hook that caught my interest and of course the crazy post Viet Nam culture that changed everything in America. It was a full bucket of weirdness, and change in America that we are still dealing with today so it is impossible to quantify, or get your head around what happened at that pivotal time in history. . . . Regardless, I'm happy with the motorcycle part that has been so enjoyable for me, personally.
                    Eric Smith
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                    • #11
                      "My Dad knocked my brother off his BSA because of the nazi helmet. Then he made him take it to the neighbor who was a POW in Germany & made him smash it & pic up the pieces in front of him."

                      That's an interesting story but hardly germain in this case. Mine helmet, as I said, had a spike on top. And although it was German, it was representative of WWI and had nothing to do with Nazis. And my Dad, being of German descent, probably cracked open a Doppel Spaten and patted me on the back.
                      Last edited by droptopford; 07-25-2026, 08:28 PM.

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                      • #12
                        After reading my comment I had to look for this picture of myself from the mid '70s. My mental disposition of the time is embarrassingly obvious from the image. . . . Dang! What a dork.

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                        Eric Smith
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by joe fxs fxr View Post
                          I'm going to take the opposing view here. When I was a young teen, I needed to see pictures of sexy women to build up my "spank bank". Since I wasn't allowed to buy Playboy, I had to rely on bike magazines and Snap-On calendars at local gas stations. But this was when society held women in low regard. I've grow up, and so have most of us. Only the most Neaderthal man still thinks this way. Derided as un-feminine, the so-called Women's Lib movement proved that women can be equal or better than men in most situations, and deserve to be treated as such. It's taken many years for society as a whole to realize that half of the population has a lot more to offer than looks. Kayla Yaackov is a current example in our sport. So yeah, while I enjoyed seeing pretty women and still do, you can't be serious when you say lack of pretty women has caused the decline of print magazines. Try to find Field and Stream on a shelf,.it became an online-only publication in 2020. Times change my friend.
                          So u post this smug drivel insulting my mother , my grandmothers , my aunts et al. The women in my family were NEVER held in low esteem .
                          and just to educate you , everyone including you, carry’s a percentage of Neanderthal genetic material .
                          Plus you misquote me. I said the lack of pretty girls led to the demise of “straight moto print” magazines. As I pointed out there are several “counter culture” bike mags very much still in print.
                          Times have not changed. There are still only 2 sexes.
                          As well as one prime directive .
                          if you bothered to pay attention , my actual point was the Editor’s writing on the purge of sexually attractive women from Cycle World was conveniently forgotten for the LeeAnn CW cover in 1999 and still to this day he has a sexy woman graphic on his own world famous motorcycle . So perhaps you need to direct your very strange indignation toward him . And thank me for pointing it out.

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                          • #14
                            Eric - true to a degree. I recall HD refused to advertise in ER as to try and uphold that eras AMA image of motorcycling
                            where I disagree with you is the WW2 returning vets were as crazy as any of us. Mid 70’s I would ride to the Indian Come Home Rally’s in the Springfield Ma area and those guys then maybe in their early forties were absolutely wild men . There was truth to the Indian - Harley wars of previous generations as well. IMG_0178.jpeg

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                            • #15
                              Field and Stream is out of print?
                              so no more exploitation of Large Mouth Bass?

                              yes. Spiked Pikelhauben are WW1 and earlier.
                              and they were used by many Euro military’s besides Germany.

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