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  • Did Harley-Davidson, Inc. sell the air-cooled Sportster line to China?

    This (conspiracy?) theory has been popping up on YouTube in the past few days. That Harley-Davidson Motor Company, Inc. sold it's now discontinued air-cooled Evo Sportster line including blueprints, tooling, etc. to China. Specifically the Shineray company that is now producing and selling under the Italian SWM brand a near Evo Sportster copy called the Stormbreaker.

    Personally I'm skeptical. Yes, modern Harley-Davidson badly needs money and similarly sold the VL design to Japan in the 1930s and even sent Joe Ryan to Japan to help set up the factory. But since when does China buy anything? Don't they just steal it?

    What do you guys think?

    https://youtu.be/Otl5KQBXVbE?si=772ObNyOf-bVnV84
    Last edited by HarleyCreation; Yesterday, 05:40 PM.
    Herbert Wagner
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  • #2
    Uncle Tony is legit.

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    • #3
      Wow. I watched the entire thing. Chinese Harley's. Money makes the world go around. Disgusting.

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      • #4
        Unfortunately, many Americans have no loyalty to American made products and only care about the price. Can't blame them because life in the U.S. is expensive but as the old bumper stickers used to say, "BUY AMERICAN, THE JOB YOU SAVE COULD BE YOUR'S".
        Eric Smith
        AMCA #886

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        • #5
          Originally posted by exeric View Post
          Unfortunately, many Americans have no loyalty to American made products and only care about the price. Can't blame them because life in the U.S. is expensive but as the old bumper stickers used to say, "BUY AMERICAN, THE JOB YOU SAVE COULD BE YOUR'S".
          Coincidentally, I was just discussing this very issue this evening with an old pilot friend over a couple of beers. Both of us have been die-hard 'buy American' guys all our lives. Years ago, as a freight pilot, transporting auto parts for the 'Big Three American Auto Makers' none of us would have dreamed or dared to show up to work in (or on) a Honda. But that was then. The conclusion we came to is that things have changed. With regards to the automotive industry anyway, the American car you buy is composed of so many foreign made parts its impossible to keep track. The foreign car you buy may very well be built in the good ol' USA by American workers.

          I don't know what the answer is. I would love to spend my money in a way that supports our Country the best way I can but the lines are becoming blurry.

          And with regard to Harley Davidson, nothing they do now would surprise me.

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          • #6
            I can't vision what the fuss is all about, and some are missing the point. So Harley-Davidson sold the Antiquated air~cooled Evo Sportster Kit & Caboodles to the Chinese. Public Motor Company Harley-Davidson, is legally free to do whatever they want when it comes to their patents, similar to the 1930's VL relinquisment 'HarleyCreation' rehashed. They still have a Sportster line, currently, it's just liquid~cooled.
            I sold off my H-D stock years ago, so I am not privy to the inner workings of the Motor Company presently. But, the Shareholders were aware of this course of action, and from what my H-D stockholder acquaintance informed me, this information was distributed in business publications & certain newspapers around the world. It just wasn't imperative news for the mainstream media to publish.
            *Please don't misinterpret my view on this. I wish Harley-Davidson just let the Sportster patents die a respectable death, rather than selling them off to the Chinese. Maybe the newly elected, Golf/Pizza Hut CEO will set Harley-Davidson on a course of renewed newfound prosperity, and reality for their loyal customers.


            *M.A,D,*
            Last edited by JoJo357; Today, 04:03 AM.

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