AMA lobbying for comments to NHTSA for Automated Driving Systems

[ihrescue]

Hi Folks:

Short and sweet this is about a link to American Motorcycle Association (AMA) and their effort to lobby support for more consideration, testing and technology to detect the presence of motorcycles in the future of vehicle driving. Automated safety features will continue to evolve and will probably only serve to make automobile drivers even less aware then they are now of motorcycles. If the automation doesn't adequately detect motorcycles, which currently it does not then it could increase risk to motorcycle riders. AMA has prepared an "Act on a Regulation" registration process that will count your voice in on supporting more tweaking of the technology so that it better detects the presence of motorcycles. Counting you in would send your name, address and email with a prepared statement to the National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration (NHTSA). NHTSA on September 15, 2017 opened a request for comments and the "Act on a Regulation" process is a well crafted statement by AMA to this end. Comment period closes on November 14, 2017 so the window is closing to have your voice heard. Obviously you can review material at NHTSA and make your own specific comments and I provide links below for that. I think this is a good idea.

I made a TinyURL for the link because original it was huge: http://tinyurl.com/motorcyclestoo
This link takes you to AMA's position which I agree with and submitted to NHTSA.

Thanks
Mike Love

More links:

NHTSA report and vision Automated Driving Systems 2.0 http://tinyurl.com/automateddrivingsystems

Proposed rule making text in Federal Register https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...ion-for-safety

Comment on your own HERE https://www.regulations.gov/document...2017-0082-0001

This includes an overview and description of the info in the Federal Register
A central repository of associated references to this and other NHTSA ADS resources will be maintained at www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicles

And just for eye appeal a photo from the recent Jefferson Meet. Here is part of Russ' Winner's Circle Indian.

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[exeric]

Even when I was a kid, I knew George Jetson was a distracted, brain addled, moron, and I would never ride an anti-gravity motorcycle in the same universe as that nincompoop; no matter how technologically advanced his cartoon space car was But seriously, the company I worked for used scanners, and proximity sensors extensively and I know they are good. . . BUT (and you can take this to the bank) if it was made, and programmed by a human, it WILL fail at some point.

[surfdude]

thanks mike. i support the AMA and their fight against E-15 fuel, wreaking havoc on new and old motors alike. Mr. Cotten has documented the effects of this crappy fuel on many occasions here...

[T. Cotten]

thanks mike. i support the AMA and their fight against E-15 fuel, wreaking havoc on new and old motors alike. Mr. Cotten has documented the effects of this crappy fuel on many occasions here...

With all due respect, Folks,...

It ain't just the ethanol.

Although economics alone should have eliminated ethanol additives (if not common sense), there are also the other 150-plus Federally mandated additives that wreak havoc upon our weedwhippers, lawnmowers, and some toys of lesser importance.

....Cotten
PS:
Can't live with them; Can't live without them.
I guess we are married.

[exeric]

I quit the AMA years ago when they lobbied the Feds to allow ATVs, and dirt bikes access to raise hell on federal lands. After that, the AMA really seemed to go pear shaped and I lost all interest in their politics.

[T. Cotten]

I quit the AMA years ago when ...

Eric!

Can I have your old annual membership pins?

I'm missing some early years...

....Cotten

[exeric]

Actually, Tom, I do have some old AMA pins, up in the attic somewhere. But, they're not that old, and neither am I . . . Yet

[T. Cotten]

Actually, Tom, I do have some old AMA pins, up in the attic somewhere. But, they're not that old, and neither am I . . . Yet

I don't think the designs changed over the years, Eric!

They just had a 1 or a 2 or a 3 for the number of years you were a member.
Since you have distain for the only significant national motorcyclist's rights organization, I figured I'd ask.

....Cotten
PS: I'm a "Charter" member, but since I don't wear pins, some are missing, probably because I gave them to my child. The AMA probably sells them outright.

[exeric]

There are places that ATVs, and dirt bikes should not be allowed. Tearing up pristine natural environments is not a right I will support, so I did what I still believe is right. Twist that any way you want, Tom.

[T. Cotten]

So Eric!

You really don't want those pins, right?

....Cotten

[exeric]

I've enjoyed just getting along with you, Tom; so I appreciate the simple comment. We can just agree to disagree on some topics.

[T. Cotten]

I've enjoyed just getting along with you, Tom; so I appreciate the simple comment. We can just agree to disagree on some topics.

I didn't argue with you at all, Eric!

Let me know if you stumble across your disagreeable pins,...

....Cotten

[Lyle Manheimer]

Gentlemen,
Several years ago when I was a member of the AMA, I contacted them about an issue we were having here in NJ. The MVC had adopted the NHTSA list for titling motorcycles in NJ. Quite simply this meant if you had purchased a motorcycle on that list you could quite easily get a title for it. If it was not on the list you were not getting a title. So if you purchased a Hyosung, Jiang Chaing, Zen Bung or any other POS imported from parts unknown and it was on that NHTSA list, no problem, title granted. However if you purchased a Adler or a Zundapp, or many other antique motorcycles you were SOL. I felt this was a great injustice so I contacted not only the AMA but my state representatives as well. I got a letter back from the AMA suggesting I contact my state reps for help on this matter. Wait a minute I thought by being a member of the AMA I was going to get some help with unfair practices, not just pushed to the side. Likewise the letter from my state reps suggested I get in contact with the MVC. After talking both by telephone and internet for a couple of weeks to contacts within the MVC about this problem everyone gave me the same line, " If it isn't on the NHTSA list it can not be titled in NJ." I was getting extremely frustrated when finally I got an email from a lady in the MVC who actually understood the problem and told me they aware of this problem for titling, registering and tagging historic motorcycles. Working with her the MVC finally got a process together to get these historic motorcycles titled. The process is not easy but it can be done and you can now get a title. So I now no longer contribute to the AMA nor do I vote for the state reps that gave me the run around. In all the years I belonged to the AMA I never received any benefits that warranted my renewal. End of story.

[RichO]

Whether or not it's true I have heard that they are close to bankruptcy, have the headquarters up for sale, have tried to sale the museum contents (but they aren't legally able too), and are just going to be just another lobbying firm in Washington. We do know they no longer have control of the racing side of their house. We also know where their magazine staff now resides. Oh well! From the thirties to the sixties they were firing on all cylinders, nice collector items generated, great racing, gypsy tours, oh my. To bad their heads carboned up, plugs fouled, rings broke, and they're dead and dying by the side of the road.

[duffeycycles]

I think they sold Leo Payne's ,The Turnip Eater....soon after donater,Mike Wilson passed