www.caimag.com/forum

[D.A.Bagin]

Understood and agree with.

[junkyarddog]

I was just trying to make things right and resolve the bitterness carried by Tom before he takes his long sleep in the dirt. But on second thought, The CAIMag forum is far, far better off that he stays away and vents his childish vitriol only over here. I still recommend his Durable floats when choices come up, even over there; they're that good. Only Rubber Duckies are comparable.

I try to say very little on this site or any other.
I think it is time to put this to sleep.
Every time you post, it invites Tom to get another shot.
You had the same type of thing going a few years ago with another member until I sent you both private messages to please stop.
Again you are make this sight look childish.
Jim

[Sargehere]

I was just trying to make things right and resolve the bitterness carried by Tom before he takes his long sleep in the dirt. But on second thought, The CAIMag forum is far, far better off that he stays away and vents his childish vitriol only over here. I still recommend his Durable floats when choices come up, even over there; they're that good. Only Rubber Duckies are comparable.

[D.A.Bagin]

Understood and agree with.

[T. Cotten]

Yes!, Mr. Bagin,

And that is exactly why I have refused several invitations back into Mr. Kanter's territory.

No one knows better than I that there is no guarantee of fundamental rights in the cyberworld: I may well hold the record being barred from the most motorcycle forums, yet it was never for obscenity, harmfull information (Fire! in a theater scenario), slander, spam, off-topic posts, or politically incorrect "hate speech".

It was usually for embarrassing somebody who deserved it.

I voluntarily left Mr. Kanter's forum , and took my toys with me, posthaste!
He subsequently printed damaging information about my DURABLE floats in his hardcopy publication, declaring that they should be set to specs other than they were designed....
(My floats are to be set to your model's book specs.)

If I had a lawyer that I could trust, I would have sued for the time it took to handle the flood of inquirys from customers, new and old, to explain that Buzz and his crew must be just too buzzed.

....Cotten

[D.A.Bagin]

I am an endorcer of all things constitutionally, however, it is my assumption the constitution protects us against the Government not private entities. If you come on my property you go by MY constitution. If that means you give up the 1st, 2nd, (However, that won't happen), so be it. The owner of a website, property, or buisness has the right to do as he pleases as long as it is legally correct.

[Sargehere]

Unadulterated bitterness does not expire; for some. You got freedom to carry it around inside for as long as you breathe, to make it right, or let it eat your soul (by bringing it up every single time someone mentions "CAIMag" on this forum). Makes no difference to me. That's your freedom.

"Candy is dandy, but liquor it quicker. Ain't nobody's business but your own."

[T. Cotten]

That single go-round you're stuck on occurred years ago. The moderator in question was as new to the whole electronic "bboard" experience as the rest of us. That conduct no longer occurs on the CAIMag board. It was part of the growing and learning process for everyone involved.

So, why carry on your boycott/bitterness over something that is long-past history? The problem was resolved, has never again recurred, and we've all grown in our knowledge of what it means to post to an antique motorcycle bulletin board. You're the only one still holding up a "strike" sign over a dispute settled long ago. Bitterness is all it is, Tom; one-way, pure, bull-headed orneryness, and will get you nowhere. Life's too short.

Somebody tell Sargehere that Freedom of Speech does not expire: Even with a bullet in the head of a fourteen year old girl who stands up for it, much less chiding the likes of me about a trivial topic such as website owners and their abusive moderators.

The whole world now watches everything. Better pick a side before the other wants to cut your tongue out, huh. And they might even ride a flathead.

....Cotten

[Sargehere]

cory some guys may not talk about the stuff they have in fear of late night thefts. after a 500,000 dollar Cyclone vanished. Membership left in boat loads when told you needed to show your address. that may have been relaxed, but no one returned.

You hit that one on the head, Rob. It was unnecessary to force bulletin board subscribers to reveal their given names and addresses to register for this board, when proof that whoever we were, we were paid, numbered members of the AMCA should have been plenty to cross-reference without it being restated. But it's all an evolving process; you make some good moves, and others have unintended consequences. That is exactly the point at which I saw participation in this forum dissolve.

[Sargehere]

No Sargehere,

I cut my losses by leaving immediately, as I highly value the right to choose my own words.
Didn't you serve in the military to protect such freedoms? ...Cotten

That single go-round you're stuck on occurred years ago. The moderator in question was as new to the whole electronic "bboard" experience as the rest of us. That conduct no longer occurs on the CAIMag board. It was part of the growing and learning process for everyone involved.

So, why carry on your boycott/bitterness over something that is long-past history? The problem was resolved, has never again recurred, and we've all grown in our knowledge of what it means to post to an antique motorcycle bulletin board. You're the only one still holding up a "strike" sign over a dispute settled long ago. Bitterness is all it is, Tom; one-way, pure, bull-headed orneryness, and will get you nowhere. Life's too short.

[c.o.]

cory some guys may not talk about the stuff they have in fear of late night thefts. after a 500 000 dollar cyclone vanished. membership left in boat loads when told you needed to show your address. that may have been relaxed, but no one returned.

Excellent point Rob. It's sad but true.

[T. Cotten]

I post mostly CAIMAG because the categories are laid out better,Mostly American and none are wasted on dead sites like Legendary build

So Duffeycycles!

So you feel that foreign marques are pointless to the AMCA mission?

And lots of ignored and stagnant catagories are important?

Just askin'

...Cotten

[duffeycycles]

I post mostly CAIMAG because the categories are laid out better,Mostly American and none are wasted on dead sites like Legendary build

[rwm]

Almost immediately I watched the membership fade away. I'm talking about wise members who knew their stuff, mechanical and history wise. As far as new members... why join the board to read typed out bitterness? But then there was a ray of light, only it was in another forum. Buzz couldn't have picked a better time to fire up a new site. I will give the man credit. He can really market the hell out of his stuff. People almost immediately flocked there and I recognized many names that no longer posted on our AMCA board. The new board was essentially the same, only you didn't have to be a member of a club to join. It did expand and I suppose went beyond what we have on this forum. I gave it a try for awhile but I'm sort of in the same boat as Tom Lovejoy...." I am staying here and hoping for the best." Some of the "wise ones" still frequent this board and I'm thankful for that. I'll agree with you though Eric... there's not nearly enough of the "early" anymore. To all the new forum members.... ask your questions and don't hesitate to share a project with us. I know the long timers have projects too... maybe take us along... it doesn't have to be involved as the Slojo build so don't let that intimidate you. This board, with a little jump start, could flourish again, I do believe.

cory some guys may not talk about the stuff they have in fear of late night thefts. after a 500 000 dollar cyclone vanished. membership left in boat loads when told you needed to show your address. that may have been relaxed, but no one returned.

[T. Cotten]

Cotten, Cotten, He's our man. If Tom Cotten can't do it, no one can! ;-)

"If nominated, I will not run, and if elected, I shall not serve."..... Hused Datwun Eiffergott

....Cotten