New Site Just For Harley History

[Buzz Kanter]

I'd just point out that the claim on the cai.com webpage that the 36EL was "the first production OHV Harley motorcycles ever" is not correct. The first ever production H-D overhead-valve motorcycle was the 21-ci OHV Single of the 1920s.

It's not the best known H-D model but should not be forgotten as it did lay the groundwork for the great Knucklehead line to come.

Thanks for pointing this out. I learned something new from you and will make the change on the www.caimag.com site.

[HarleyCreation]

I'd just point out that the claim on the cai.com webpage that the 36EL was "the first production OHV Harley motorcycles ever" is not correct. The first ever production H-D overhead-valve motorcycle was the 21-ci OHV Single of the 1920s.

It's not the best known H-D model but should not be forgotten as it did lay the groundwork for the great Knucklehead line to come.

[rickgeo]

Keep Smilin' Malcolm,,errr,,,, I mean,Buzz !

[Buzz Kanter]

So, is anyone here interested in helping share Harley history knowledge and info on the new site? It is apparent the purpose of this thread was lost early on.

Cotten has a lot of great info and is happy to share. The ex-moderator at the www.caimag.com site has long gone and it has turned into a friendly, helfpul forum with some really great folks there.

The new site at www.classic-harley.info is a blog, not a forum. All help there is greatly appreciated.

[bobdo]

Thanks Chris for making it clear. I didn't realize there were hard feelings.
Sorry I butted in.
Sounds like an interesting idea Buzz, good luck with that.

[c.o.]

That's unfortunate Tom. There are some folks on that forum that aren't AMCA members (shame on them) that will be missing out on your knowledge.

You can say that again!! Cotten never hesitates in sharing his knowledge and it's been a HUGE help in my old motorcycle world!

[cdndewey]

That's unfortunate Tom. There are some folks on that forum that aren't AMCA members (shame on them) that will be missing out on your knowledge.

[T. Cotten]

Let me make it clear that I wasn't using obscenities or pushing a political agenda.

I was answering tech posts, as I had been invited to do.
The "moderator" didn't like my pedantic style, and began harrassing my posts with class-clown replies like "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz".
When I failed to react to his bad manners, he proceeded to re-write my posts, changing their message to suit himself, and signed them.
The forum owner must have thought cyber-fascism was cute. Speech is not free if words are put in your mouth.

I picked up my toys and left: There are fine web communities based outside of the USA that are far more "American" than what Buzz provides!

....Cotten
PS: Buzz then went on to print erroneous information about my floats in his hardcopy publication, putting me into damage-control mode.
Sometimes you cannot get away from a 'rolling cannon".

[rwm]

you have all the freedom of speech you want. just not on someone else's soap box

[Chris Haynes]

If you copy from one author it is called plagiarizing. if you copy from many it is called research.

[T. Cotten]

Cotten had his posts on Buzz's web site "Edited" by a moderator.

And Buzz's response to my protest, inspite of inviting me personally to join, and inspite of oweing his entire publishing empire to the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment, was to blithely reply: "I don't want to hear about freedom of speech".

Two centuries of valiant defenders of American freedom rolled in their graves.

By the way Buzz, I'm still waiting for the Indian Illustrated that I subscribed to...

....Cotten

[exeric]

Cotten had his posts on Buzz's web site "Edited" by a moderator.

What was edited ? By who ? And when ?

[Chris Haynes]

Cotton,
I'm not sure what your referring to, so I looked it up.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I don't understand what is wrong with using "American" in the title? Please explain, I try to be respectful.
Thanks, Bob

Cotten had his posts on Buzz's web site "Edited" by a moderator.

[bobdo]

Cotton,
I'm not sure what your referring to, so I looked it up.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I don't understand what is wrong with using "American" in the title? Please explain, I try to be respectful.
Thanks, Bob

[T. Cotten]

Not sure how to take that.

Actually, I thought I was promoting Harley history with this idea. Too much bad info out there and I thought this might help.

How altruistic.

If your interest in History is sincere, I suggest you start with the US Constitution, specifically the First Amendment, and then apply it to your forum.
(Or take "American" out of its title!)

....Cotten