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    Looking for the little "bushing" that grabs the ferrule on the clutch or brake cable, and is held on with an E clip.

    Oddly enough, NOS and repops of the older and newer versions of this, along with the Pivot Pin, are readily available, but not the -65 bushing.

    Thanks in advance to anybody who will part with one!
    Ride it like you can fix it!

  • #2
    What is the diameter of? I’ve seen 2 different. Maybe one is aftermarket? If I have the correct one you can have it, just pay shipping.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by otis71 View Post
      What is the diameter of? I’ve seen 2 different. Maybe one is aftermarket? If I have the correct one you can have it, just pay shipping.
      It's shaped like the Pivot Pin (left photo), but has a slot and hole in it like the second photo, which is of a newer version. The hole in my handle is .50, so anything slightly smaller diameter should fit. The handle is .70 thick, so the bushing would need to be longer to allow for the groove and clip.

      pivot pin.png bushing.PNG
      Last edited by JSB55; 12-08-2024, 01:25 PM.
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      • #4
        UPDATE: I have a set of correct handles on my other 65. On those, the "bushing" is .875 long, and is drilled through the center as pictured in the second photo, but the "slot" is vertical. You put the cable in the handle, insert the "bushing" from above with the cable through the slot, and the hole then engages the ferrule and keeps the cable in place, with the whole thing secured at the bottom via the E clip. Much easier, I think, than the later version which is held in place by flimsy plastic "plugs" top and bottom (at least in the repop version currently being sold).
        Last edited by JSB55; 12-08-2024, 02:47 PM.
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        • #5
          Those flimsy plastic plugs do not retain anything, they are nylon bushings to make the pivot move easier, the pin holds in place by its location on the cable. That was an H-D upgrade and used for a very long time.
          Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rubone View Post
            Those flimsy plastic plugs do not retain anything, they are nylon bushings to make the pivot move easier, the pin holds in place by its location on the cable. That was an H-D upgrade and used for a very long time.
            And, sure enough, there they are in the Shovelhead parts catalog as a -68 part. Rubone's encyclopedic knowledge base strikes again.

            All this time, I thought they were some cheapo substitute in Vtwin repops. Still, I'd like to find the correct bushing for 65, but I can make do with the later version if I have to.
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            • #7
              What are your VIN numbers? According to the parts supplements the bushing you ask about is only for the very early '65s, then was changed during the production year, and changed again for the nylon bushings and smaller pin in '68.
              The updates show up in the '66 supplement for '65 models other than the very early types, and the '66/'67 supplements with the same info.
              Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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              • #8
                I'd rather not post VIN numbers. I know there's a way to decipher them, but I don't recall the source right now (probably Bruce Palmer, which I have versions 1 and 2 of).

                I was just going by what's listed in the 58-68 parts book and the levers I already have on my other 65. For the current build, I only have an aftermarket Vtwin repop with the plastic bushings, or the more or less roached older style "blade" lever with parking lock that I took off it. I'm not going for an AMCA points winner, but I like to make them as correct as reasonably possible, even if it's just going to be a fun toy to tool around on.

                Do you have a part number for the late 65/early 66 pin? I have the 58-68 Pan parts book, and 71-84 Shovel book. The latter shows the pin without bushings as # 45034-68, used on 71 and 72 models, but I suspect that's the one you're referring to before the plastic bushings were added. The Pan book shows 45033-65 being used on the newer style levers.

                Now I have a headache and need a drink! *LOL*
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JSB55 View Post
                  I'd rather not post VIN numbers. I know there's a way to decipher them, but I don't recall the source right now (probably Bruce Palmer, which I have versions 1 and 2 of).

                  I was just going by what's listed in the 58-68 parts book and the levers I already have on my other 65. For the current build, I only have an aftermarket Vtwin repop with the plastic bushings, or the more or less roached older style "blade" lever with parking lock that I took off it. I'm not going for an AMCA points winner, but I like to make them as correct as reasonably possible, even if it's just going to be a fun toy to tool around on.

                  Do you have a part number for the late 65/early 66 pin? I have the 58-68 Pan parts book, and 71-84 Shovel book. The latter shows the pin without bushings as # 45034-68, used on 71 and 72 models, but I suspect that's the one you're referring to before the plastic bushings were added. The Pan book shows 45033-65 being used on the newer style levers.

                  Now I have a headache and need a drink! *LOL*
                  No one needs to see your VIN, you just need to determine how early or late they are. '65 was an odd year so they will only start with odd numbers, 1,3,5,7,9,11, so if one is 3500 and the other is 7500 then one is likely early and the other one is late (this is merely a rough example) .
                  Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rubone View Post

                    No one needs to see your VIN, you just need to determine how early or late they are. '65 was an odd year so they will only start with odd numbers, 1,3,5,7,9,11, so if one is 3500 and the other is 7500 then one is likely early and the other one is late (this is merely a rough example) .
                    The FLH is over 9000, and the FL that I'm working on now is much higher than that, so I guess from what you're saying, they are both late 65 production.

                    Is the pin without bushings that was used 65/66 the one later listed as 45034-68?
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                    • #11
                      To clarify; you need 2 with the vertical slot? Fairly sure mine are all horizontal. And I’m with you that I’m not quite sure why they stopped using vertical slots. Much simpler installation.

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                      • #12
                        What size hole is in your lever? There are a couple different sized bushings and go with specific levers. Earliest were 7/16" later are 1/2". Lever thickness also changes.
                        Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by otis71 View Post
                          To clarify; you need 2 with the vertical slot? Fairly sure mine are all horizontal. And I’m with you that I’m not quite sure why they stopped using vertical slots. Much simpler installation.
                          I only need 1 with the vertical slot for the brake lever. Thanks for looking in your stash.
                          Ride it like you can fix it!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rubone View Post
                            What size hole is in your lever? There are a couple different sized bushings and go with specific levers. Earliest were 7/16" later are 1/2". Lever thickness also changes.
                            The aftermarket lever I have is .75 thick at the cable bushing/pin, and the hole is .50. Best I can tell without taking them apart, it's the same dimensions as the originals on my FLH, but differs in that it has the plastic bushings around the pin.
                            Last edited by JSB55; 12-10-2024, 04:54 PM.
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