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Thread: Indian Commander Horns 1948-1953

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    Default Indian Commander Horns 1948-1953

    Recently several of us have discussed the true OEM of this range of years production for the Indian horn. A couple of common responses have been the typical Sparton open center 4/4 slot horn which is perhaps the most common mount seen in any Indian text you have. Looking at Service Shots #202 and a recent visit to caimag.com led me to a post by Terry Marsh who said the original was much different than the Sparton and not of that company make. A Delco-Remy representative said if you see any Delco-Remy horns with the same design, they should be regarded as suspicious because DR did not make them for Indian. Also, speaking to another expert, he said the Sparton was a replacement part, though he didn't know who the original company was.

    To further complicate the matter, I recently purchased a 1948 accessory catalog from Ziggy's and there are two not one horn depicted on page 10! They were regarded as "Indian Commander Horns," though there only with commander in quotes. Go figure.

    I have recently contacted the US Government Patent Office to resolve this and the foundry forge stamping question as no one has any clear information on that issue either.

    The following photos are here posted to help other interested people in their searches for the truth and accuracy of "original" parts.

    Hope someone else can help clarify the information.

    Thank you.
    -JTR249
    364501948 Indian Accessory Catalog p 10.jpg
    Original Indian Commander Horn 2.jpg
    Indian Horn BR REF 2.jpg

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    From what I have discovered the 48-53 style horn is the same type and style that was used on the post war Willy`s Jeeps. These were made by Autolite which would make sense seeing that Indian used Autolite Distributors, Generators and Voltage Regulators.

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    Thanks Mark. I'll see what I can find on Autolite. I recently emailed the Esta Manthos Museum and no one there had any records on foundry stamps either. I realize its kind of a picky thing to ask about, but when you are building a bike and you want to be as accurate as possible with most of the parts, you want to know what the factory originally used.

    Best,
    -John Robinson
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    Your welcome John, I hope you find one that will work for you. Mark.

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    I wanted to add another photograph that I rediscovered in flipping through Jerry Hatfield and Hans Halberstadt's text, Indian Motorcycles from 1996 and 2007 on page 135. Here we see a picture of actors that Indian recruited to promote the verticals when they were introduced. The horns on the sides of these bikes are not like either the originals, four slot that some say Sparton manufactured. They are not either like the Commander Horns made reference to in the accessory catalogs from later years after production. These look like cans. I would like to know if anyone reading this actually knows what these horns are? Maybe in researching these horns, there will be a link established to develop the true origin of the alleged four slot Sparton. I'm hoping someone can show me early literature to prove the horn is a Sparton. I know several of you have already told me and I have no reason to doubt accomplished restoration experts or any reputable person with an interest in Indian history.
    Take a look and let me know.

    -JR
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