BIKES AND SUPPORT TRUCK STOLEN Cannonball 2014

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[shelbyinparadise]

Just to keep the facts straight, The Truck was found Empty, door locks popped and steering column broken to start it, north of Tacoma and Jon picked it up Tuesday when police released it to him. Jon and David Lloyd drove Jessie and I to Airport in the truck on Wednesday morning, By the time we got to Denver layover, we got word that the Trailer was recovered that morning in Seattle, Jon and David went and were there while the police processed the trailer and Bikes for fingerprints. Because Jon had followed all requirements on the police report, that the motorcycles were in his trailer by owners with permission for transport back to Texas, The trailer and 4 motorcycles were turned over to Jon and David.

No Tools, Spare parts or personal items were recovered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They stripped it bare except for trash and some dirty clothes from Greg's Pack on bike. Maybe wearing your lucky pants for 17 days was too much for a thief? And who would wear snake skin boots in Washington state?

David and Jon Drove home to Texas in 48 hours, Greg, Big Swede and David all have picked up their bikes and are safely home, a few scratches from the thieves unloading the tools, spare parts and personal items that were packed all around them. A few of the straps were off like they might have been starting to unload the bikes when for some reason they left. Who knows, they might have been watching Facebook and felt the risk was getting too high.

When Jon called me last night to update me, he said there was a lot of good intentioned wrong details on Social Media, but all of you that tried to help should know the pressure from all the posts helped get the word out, and that is what is important. Please keep it up till the tools and Spare parts are found. The Police were under a lot of pressure due to wide spread coverage by newspapers, TV and of course all the social media.

Thanks for all your efforts and pass it forward, Good Karma beats pure chance. Shelby

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BREAKING NEWS

Trailer located with cannonball signs spray painted over and UNCONFIRMED REPORTS that all of the motorcycles are inside

Okay, I've back-tracked, trying to get this straight, but..... it's not clear.
Were 5 bikes stolen, or was one of them Mr Lloyd's? and on it's way home in his truck?
So now, have all bikes been recovered? as well as truck and trailer?
And the not-recovered items are tools, jackets, clothes, spare parts, complete engines, pistol, ????

Also, I hope that Mr Lloyd's inconvenience with the truckers and Arkansas Law wasn't too uncomfortable. We need Johnie Law and any trucker who tries to help. I wouldn't suggest we thank them for "roughing him up" (which I doubt happened), but must thank all for their efforts.

Good luck, Shelby and crew.

[alanc48]

For everybody I that posted interest in helping Shelby out, here's the link

http://www.gofundme.com/f4ywuc

Shelby, it is the least we can do. If your tools turn up you can donate everything to your favorite charity.

[shelbyinparadise]

I want nothing more than for you to get back everything that was taken from you Shelby. If it was hijacked accept my apology.

I accept your sincere apology, it is not just me but the other Carson team members have lost over $50,000 in all, yet to be recovered.

My wife just handed me a report that David Lloyd on his way back home from Texas, with his bike in back of Pickup, had a encounter with some truckers that correctly identified the stolen Cannon Ball Bike and boxed him in. "After a fairly intense encounter with Arkansas State Trooper, David proved that the bike is indeed his, and is back on way home".

Social Media has worked correctly, but it might be tough to ride the bikes for a while. Shelby

[D.A.Bagin]

I want nothing more than for you to get back everything that was taken from you Shelby. If it was hijacked accept my apology.

[shelbyinparadise]

Thank you Richard and God Bless, Now I will P*ss off someone else with that.
Hold your Bible, Guns and Freedom close, less they be taken away. Shelby

This thread is about stolen and hopefully recovered motorcyclists' property, not gun laws. It WAS hijacked.

[frichie68]

This thread is about stolen and hopefully recovered motorcyclists' property, not gun laws. It WAS hijacked.

[shelbyinparadise]

I do Not see the point of PM, A Firearm securely locked in trunk of car, or in this case locked in a secure trailer, under stacks of other luggage, surrounded by strapped in Motorcycles is just as legal as the one checked in luggage on flight home in locked case with knives. Are you next to suggest that if I had carried all my possessions to the hotel room I would have prevented a Thief from committing a crime of Stealing all my possessions and returning home with nothing but my medicine bag and computer? Should I have had the Truck and Trailer put in Hotel safe overnight for security? I am still trying to finish additional Police report and you are being of no help getting my Teams possessions back with your tangent. Shelby

Shelby, I did not hijack the thread at all. Rob went in the direction of responsible firearm ownership. I just went a bit further on that subject. I did not leave a loaded firearm unattended and without personal possession, you did. How much fun would it have been to come upon the persons responsible with this very unfortunate situation and get a third of an ounce of your possessions returned to you in a most unwanted manner. If you want to discuss this further please pm me. I am happy for you that you do have a permit that allows you possession in Washington. So do I. I am a extreme supporter of the right to bear arms so do not think I am some anti by any means.

[D.A.Bagin]

Shelby, I did not hijack the thread at all. Rob went in the direction of responsible firearm ownership. I just went a bit further on that subject. I did not leave a loaded firearm unattended and without personal possession, you did. How much fun would it have been to come upon the persons responsible with this very unfortunate situation and get a third of an ounce of your possessions returned to you in a most unwanted manner. I think you would rather have it in your possession and if law allows defend your property. If you want to discuss this further please pm me. I am happy for you that you do have a permit that allows you possession in Washington. So do I. I am a extreme supporter of the right to bear arms according to law so do not think I am some anti by any means. I believe the ammo and firearm has to be separated and unloaded according to federal law when travelling in non-permitted states and the owner has to be present even in permitted states, but as I said, feel free to PM me on this subject.

[shelbyinparadise]

I really did not want to get into a discussion about the firearm but the door opened. First, I am a strong believer in the 2nd. Utah permit works for Washington but that's about it for a non- resident permit. Washington does issue non-resident permits, a lot of states do not. Oh, and I would worry if someone gets whacked with that firearm. Lawyers can do wonders with negligent loss of a loaded firearm.

With due respect, Please do not hijack this thread, it is too important. How you get negligent loss of a loaded firearm, out of a secured gun in luggage, in a locked trailer, is beyond me. Just for the record I am a Legal resident of Utah, Texas, and Florida. The pistol from the truck, owner had permit and in compliance with all federal law while traveling. Enough said. Shelby

[D.A.Bagin]

I really did not want to get into a discussion about the firearm but the door opened. First, I am a strong believer in the 2nd. Utah permit works for Washington but that's about it for a non- resident permit. Washington does issue non-resident permits, a lot of states do not. Oh, and I would worry if someone gets whacked with that firearm. Lawyers can do wonders with negligent loss of a loaded firearm.

[rwm]

. A loaded .38 with extra ammo got their attention, they were quite serious that it was an officers safety issue.... But Washington cities are getting ready to pass stricter gun laws, so I doubt that I will ever get it back. It was a present for my 60th birthday at Eustis by a great friend in 2007 so it was special, but only one of many on hand.

did you have an out of state carry permit? you may find out how strict Washington state gun laws are. I BELIEVE EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY. you better pray some crackhead does not shot somebody with a few bucks for a lawyer. that whole tofu coast does not have reciprocity with many states if any. i would call the nra monday first thing. if you had an non resident carry permit then your good and wont need to worry.

[shelbyinparadise]

I do not personally know Shelby, but I know a man with skills needs tools. The tools a man has history with, and is familiar to, can never really be replaced if lost, but there are more good tools out there. If someone with the time would be gracious enough to manage a fund to help Shelby out, I pledge the first 100.00 towards helping him fill a tool box. If you can't afford a cash donation, maybe you have some extra tools around to pass along.

Kyle, you have really hit the nail on the head with how a craftsman respects his tools, my Dad's tool and die makers tools, all the special tools I have bought to work on Mechanical Restorations to Harleys, were my best friends that I could depend on to produce quality work and results. I would compare my "Fix it Tool Box" like a Doctor' bag, he takes his best to a emergency, and on the Cannonball we were doing emergency repairs so the riders could be on the road the next day. Cheap Foreign tools are a joke and cause more problems than they cure. Did we take too many spares? Ask someone we gave a part to so he could ride another day, Just like we did on the Cherokee Road Run this Spring, We had most every part to get people going and in multiple quantities.

I ask everyone to hold off and lets see if Jon's insurance, will cover the loss for all the team members possessions lost, if not found in a reasonable amount of time. My contact info below.

Thank you all more than I can say for thinking of us!!!!!!!! Shelby Withrow, Membership and events director Cherokee Chapter, shelbyinparadise@compuwise.net 940-748-2555, www.Cherokeeamca.org Join us, we travel and try to have fun

[alanc48]

i can replace some of the tools, i believe i have an extra Starrett outside mic set