Cyclone production numbers

[jurassic]

[jurassic]

i found this picture in my stuff,not sure who owns it.

[HarleyCreation]

Thought I would share this with you guys. November 6, 1914 Racine-Journal News article
in which Fred Joerns, president of the Joerns Motor Mfg. Co. wrote to the Racine Commercial Club about possibly moving to Racine next season. Ya gotta blow it up to read it. Hopefully one of you guys can use the info.

Dick

A good find.

How ironic. The "industrial building" (still standing) in Racine mentioned as a new possible home for the Cyclone was also where Pennington built The Motor Cycle while in Racine in 1895 and where he took out a patent on the long mingling spark. The Mitchell motorcycle (1901-05) was built just a few blocks away.

Not to mention Racine is my hometown.

[HarleyCreation]

So it would be true to say that Cyclone did produce more than half a dozen or so motorcycles how many just isn't known or truely documented.
I always thought that they only made racers and hill climbers so I managed to learn a bit more about them finding out that street bikes were made to.
And they may have possiably also come in another color besides yellow maybe blue or? black even.

Herb,Would you know if a racer would change the color of a factory race bike or would that kind of like go against the factory wishes back in the day?

Did Cyclone fund any racers?

To me it appears they may have made more racers than street bikes, but I have no solid evidence except the racers seem more common back then.

A racer could change a machine's color whether the factory approved or not, but it seems unlikely he would bother. I do know that the Cyclone was described as being "yellow" at the time, but that doesn't mean other colors weren't tried.

I think funding racers was what killed Cyclone (among other things). It seems that they believed if they fielded some factory racers and won some races the world would beat a path to their door. But it didn't work out that way. The bike couldn't take the "long grind" (nor even the short grind!) and failed to make big wins.

Then the economy was hit very hard in late 1914 and '15 by the war in Europe and credit was hard to get and prices began rising. Like so many other makes, Cyclone was a casualty of the Great War!

I was wrong about the Cyclone being sold in Rochester. This one was sold in May of 1915 in Cincinnati. That is, it was delivered as a demonstrator. Where did that one go?

Still working on the correct race date. I'm close I think. The spy, I wish I could say. But I'm sure we do know him.

[pem]

Thought I would share this with you guys. November 6, 1914 Racine-Journal News article
in which Fred Joerns, president of the Joerns Motor Mfg. Co. wrote to the Racine Commercial Club about possibly moving to Racine next season. Ya gotta blow it up to read it. Hopefully one of you guys can use the info.

Dick

[Chuck#1848]

Thanks Bruce,
According to the article that blue Cyclone was in Oley in 1997 and recieved the Red Wolverton award for the best restored motorcycle at the meet.

I gotta believe that someone must have snapped a shot of that in 97, I am gonna have to dig out the old magazines from 97 tonight

[BEK]

1914 blue cyclone

I found Daniel Statnekov's website with pictures of his 1914 blue Cyclone.

http://www.statnekov.com/motorcycles...os-frames.html

Just scroll down on the left side of the page to the 1914 Cyclone for pictures.

[Chuck#1848]

So it would be true to say that Cyclone did produce more than half a dozen or so motorcycles how many just isn't known or truely documented.
I always thought that they only made racers and hill climbers so I managed to learn a bit more about them finding out that street bikes were made to.
And they may have possiably also come in another color besides yellow maybe blue or? black even.

Herb,Would you know if a racer would change the color of a factory race bike or would that kind of like go against the factory wishes back in the day?

Did Cyclone fund any racers?

[Chris Haynes]

Here's a close up. of the "spy"

He is a spy alright. But what you don't understand is that he was really from the Wigwam.

Here's a close up. of the "spy"

[HarleyCreation]

Herb, I am really curious to know who that tall guy with the Harley jersey is. Looks like a "spy" from Harley ! Is that a camera strap? It is the only Harley reference in the photo. The sticker on the back read it was framed in Milwaukee.

From "Milwaukee" on back I'm assuming it's a Milwaukee race.

Too bad, but I found 4 races held at State Fair Park in Milw. in 1915. Still looking as time permits. I know Cyclone was there in some: Don Johns and Carl Escherich are named.

Tall guy might indeed be spy. Face doesn't show up too good, but height might be clue to who he is. If we find out his identity (name) we probably know all about him!

Herb, I am really curious to know who that tall guy with the Harley jersey is. Looks like a "spy" from Harley ! Is that a camera strap? It is the only Harley reference in the photo. The sticker on the back read it was framed in Milwaukee.

[HarleyCreation]

Chuck, I got the ad from a 1917 copy of Motorcycle and Bicycle Illustrated magazine. I assumed the ad was based out of New York....... better get diggin'.........

MC Illustrated was def. a New York publication. The delivered Cyclone I saw from a late 1915 mag was to a eastern state. Maybe even Buffalo, N.Y. I'll try to find it.

Big drop in value to $100 suggest Cyclone was NOT well thought of like it is now. Mags in one place described it as a "freak." That was like a curse back then. Plus by 1917 the company was defunct and the bike an orphan. Should have bought a Harley, Ex, or Indian!

Barry, I'll try to identify that race. BTW, I'd bet $100 that is Carl Escherich. That's his face!

[Chris Border MFG]

And the hunt begins...... It all starts with a lead. Kinda feels like National treasure and the clues. Best part is the hunt

[c.o.]

Chuck, I got the ad from a 1917 copy of Motorcycle and Bicycle Illustrated magazine. I assumed the ad was based out of New York....... better get diggin'.........