V-Twin hand lever problems

[23JDCA 808]

look what happened last time H-D tried to buy a 4 cyl bike/company, funny how history repeats, maybe not
how did they get out from under the 29 try? don`t know the full story myself

http://www.caimag.com/forum/f2/missi...type-1940.html

[Chris Haynes]

Hi,Chris
In 29 H-D evaluated the Cleveland four ,Arthur Davidson recomended a buyout, William Harley recomended hireing Everett De Long which they did.

only what i have read ref "Indian Four Motorcycles color history" pg52 J.Hatfield/J.Hackett

Always intrested me, but not something H-D archives are going to shout about, a "what nearly happened" ?

H-D did prototype a four in the early '30's. Last I knew of it it was in the collection of Will Francis. I haven't heard where it went after his death.

[Paps]

The gear specimen shows a total lack of quality control. That batch of gears never were tested for correct tempering. It is obvious the gear was hardened clear through. The shearing of the teeth, down to the root, points this out. You manufacture the gear and yet during the next to last phase of the manufacturing process, you don't proof the tempering ??? before you finish the part ??? The only other reason for such failure ?? Incorrect material in the first place. Material that cannot be tempered correctly ! There could be one more reason for the failure but that does not look to be the case with this gear. Poor teeth cutting at the root, leaving behind a tool mark fracture point, would and could, cause such successive tooth row shearing. But as I said....that gear looks like the machine work was sufficient. In either case senerio of why the gear failed....the real reason is quality control.

[Greg H]

I have never heard the story.

Hi,Chris
In 29 H-D evaluated the Cleveland four ,Arthur Davidson recomended a buyout, William Harley recomended hireing Everett De Long which they did.

only what i have read ref "Indian Four Motorcycles color history" pg52 J.Hatfield/J.Hackett

Always intrested me, but not something H-D archives are going to shout about, a "what nearly happened" ?

[INLINE4NUT]

Ill bet it was costly as well !!!Whats the saying long after the smile of less money is gone the taste of POOR quality linger

[Chris Haynes]

look what happened last time H-D tried to buy a 4 cyl bike/company, funny how history repeats, maybe not
how did they get out from under the 29 try? don`t know the full story myself

I have never heard the story.

Here is the last piece of crap I bought from Vee Twin. I think it only lasted one or two kicks. I decided not to return it as their return policy blows. They will only give you a "credit" no refunds. It is great to show to people thinking of doing business with them.

[Paps]

I agree with you also Tom but we need international trade as well. When things were really great here in the states, it was partly because we shipped our goods overseas. They real problem with trade today is the lopsided part of it. Our corporations are moving our manufacturing base to poor third world nations.....all because of pure and simple GREED. The clonies holding high office positions, from the excecutive branch, to all other government agencies, have steered the rule of law, the trade policies, and the clean air laws, to permit such manufacturing moves. It hasn't mattered a damn bit what particuliar party has held control of congress or the administrations. Every freakin one of them are in the back pockets of the large corporations. How about GM ??????????? They are gonna be selling us automobiles they will be manufacturing in China !!!!! Next year in fact !! Nope....nothing wrong with international trade. BUT !!!!!!!! It must be fair !!!! It must not cause jobless situations here in the states ! If corporations must follow strict epa guidelines in the USA....then any manufacturer in the rest of the world.... must follow those same guidelines, or be forbidden to sell those manufactured goods here. Same goes for labor practices. NO CHILD SLAVE WORKERS !!! A standard minimum wage world wide !! If a politician does not hold to the words I just spoke......he is a treasonist bastard.

[Greg H]

look what happened last time H-D tried to buy a 4 cyl bike/company, funny how history repeats, maybe not
how did they get out from under the 29 try? don`t know the full story myself

Harley Is Closing Dealerships Too. Cameron's In Perth Ontario And Sovie's In Potsdam New York. They Are Using Other Excuses To Screw These Guys Out Of Their Franchises, Just Like The Beloved Harley Company Of Yore.

[23JDCA 808]

Yup, Chrysler is going to close 800 dealerships and GM will close 1,000.

About 1100. GM dealership in Corvallis, Oregon is one of them. College town with a population of 55,000.

too late to close the borders. protectionism in the past just caused grief. think twice about closing the Canadian border with all that oil and fresh water on your doorstep. it's not just manufactured goods that are traded. of course you could always invade us but I think a better bargain if you just bought Canada. give every Canuk a new Chevy and a lifetime supply of poutine it would be a done deal

[rwm]

all the technology we have today and we can't change. what if paul revere had a cell phone? 225 + years ago people had the same gripe but different mind set. they changed. there's alot of sad guys looking down on us.

[INLINE4NUT]

I have to agree with Tom I would love to see the day we close the borders and manufacture all our own gooods again ! What happens when it cost more to ship it from china and we no longer make anything for ourselves???? I to care where the part comes from and i also dont agree with the club enabling anyone to profit from substandard suppliers Chris just by buy that junk you enable the company,on the other hand I understand why you wouldnt use a NOS part on a bobber hard place to be in.

[T. Cotten]

I'm an isolationist too. I put up nasty signs and trained the dog to bark at anyone who comes to the shop door... because local customers suck!

Give me free enterprise. Laisse faire, pure capitalism thank you.
I've still got the first Euro I ever earned.

....Cotten