Is Fuel Prices Ruining Swapmeet Attendence

[KDR]

George,

I think they won't control anything.........no reason to kiss their azz anymore and everything will move to the next players home court.

My guess.......India

Kurt

[George Greer]

Kurt.........

That is why I say that once the oil is gone.......what they gonna do??

Control the financial markets, that's what I think that they are doing.

George

[KDR]

Quote George: "But I think that as the Arabian oil gets used up and supplys dry out......what are they going to do??"

Personal observation:.............no one cares........no one ever cared.

They have the oil and that's what everyone wants..........now. When it's gone.......so will everyone and anything there.......basically the same thing when you're rich and famous....everyone wants a piece of you, but when you fail and go broke.....everyone stays as far away as they can. Nothing to gain from a country that can't support itself.........Africa ring a bell?

I've heard calculations decades ago (circa 1970's pre-internet) about the U.S. and its oil reserves could support itself for 150 years including (at the time) current population growth rate. I've heard it change over the years, but now with the current refining process of extracting oil from shale, sandstone and limestone....it could be 100's more. My bet is though, it'll be only 15 more years with petroleum based fuels......hydrogen is the way of the future and I say by 2020 or so, you won't find a fossil fuel auto by any manufacturer. Home heating will undergo a change also.

My point is.......the Arab's see what's coming and are trying to get the most out of what they have now.

Again.......just my observation

Kurt


Oh.......and that goes for the oil refineries also.......they'll be dead in the water..........maybe why no one is building new refineries.

[Paps]

Kurt has spoken the truth. That is the strategy ! Our reservers are just that ! Ours !! But ??? Don't beat around the damn bush..... Tell us so ! Paps

[George Greer]

Kurt........

I agree, using up others oil and keep ours in reserve might have been a good idea at one time.

But I think that as the Arabian oil gets used up and supplys dry out......what are they going to do??

Control the money markets.........Check out CNN International, and just look at all the ads concerning Arabic Financing/Banking.......Hell they know that the oil will come to an end and they surely cant eat the freaking sand............CONTROL the MONEY...

You watch..

George

[Magic]

this is a long term deal

KDR I strongly agree with that mindset plan of our country and I believe as we heat up the world with our bullyness the price will only skyrocket to the limit of more people thinking the way our parents thought back then too. Just as we are pressuring Saudi Arabia to explore more into their hard to get to underground untapped supplies. Use theres first and control/lower at home use. Power/Strength of any country rests in energy supplies. I feel for families full of children use to attending social/sporting events. I'm curious to see how our economy gets outta this one and yes I'm optimistic and waiting as well. Family of veterans here. Army, Navy(2), Marines, guess who the Jarhead was LOL Merlin in Pa.

[KDR]

There's a method to this madness and it's designed for security reasons. The policies were made during the cold war....maybe even as far back as WWI.... and were designed to ensure if there was a war, the U.S. would have enough oil reserves to support military requirements for many decades. If the U.S. was to enter another WW, the first thing to go would be oil supplies from the middle east and Alaska (Russia next door).....hence the Alaskan pipe line and the large effort put into that project. We would fuel our peace time needs with imported oil from other countries....using theirs up......and leave our vast mainland oil reserves untouched. I believe there was even talk of putting oil back in the ground here in the States to refill what was already used. I don't expect this thinking to ever change anytime soon......I do expect offshore drilling to increase as long as it doesn't affect the mainland oil reserves.

Just my opinion..............18 years Air Force training........I think I heard that somewhere.....

Kurt

[stevekleincustom]

Fuel costs, swap meets, Mexico and other BS

Fuel costs in South Texas are currently $4.05 for regular and $4.68 for diesel and rising.

As a kid growing up in Northwest Iowa, I distinctly remember only going to town once a month. In that trip the feed store bill got paid, Mom went to the beauty shop, Dad and the four of us boys got haircuts at the barber shop, and groceries were bought before we went home. Most people I know today never let the hood of their car cool off. They run to the corner store every day for something. Face it no one will stay home until gas is not available.

T. Boone Pickens stated the obvious well this a.m. on national news. During Nixons administration less than 20% of our oil was imported. With each successive administration we are now up to 70% imported. America has not had a new refinery built since 1972 and our energy policy is shitty at best. Environmentalists have cut off domestic reserves from being tapped...etc....He also predicted that one year from today we would be paying $6.00 a gallon! Might have to park the Panhead and ride the Hummer?

I filled up several gas cans last week to top off some bikes in my collection. Took $75 bucks to do this. Made me remember being able to ride a scoot all weekend as a teenager for $2 bucks (gas was .25 a gal) and I am only 49. Many of our AMCA mmbers paid much less in their younger days.

Rather than not attend Wauseon, Davenport or other worthwhile destinations I would rather cut miles out of my life elsewhere and be able to attend these events and be around "real people and real iron".

Just a thought.

Steve Klein...down in South Texas

[Paps]

Another pricing update

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_usage_and_pricing

[INLINE4NUT]

HC andCO yes Ive been there and done that as they say and HC you said the key phrase "labor intense" Im lazy and corn still is cheap here and easy to handle the plus is no creasote

[c.o.]

I agree with you Herb. I heat with wood and it sure does the trick for me. If a fella is in an are with timber, it's almost crazy nowadays not to. I'm hearing that the corn issue is causing problems in the food markets. So I don't know if it's really the answer. Oh, by the way I sent you a p.m.

[HarleyCreation]

We all can blow off a little steam here ....but Im afraid to blame any one party here, big oil corps have reaped a real harvest as of late,If King George cared about all of us he could and would have done something for us,instead he takes a trip to Europe to say goodbye, I hope he realizes they hate him and not us. Now Ive said my 2 cents worth !! There is no end in sight,so we better find other ways to run our cars and heat our houses, some time ago in Davenport i had a talk with a local about heating with corn and it sounded reasonable, they grow a good crop of corn here in Maine so this year my house will be heated with corn,Im giving my hard earned money to an American this year ! And like PAPS I approve of this message

Have you considered a regular old-fashioned wood stove? I'll bet Maine grows more trees than corn. I've been heating my house with wood for many years and it's labor intensive but I get the wood for free. The small amount of gas I use in my chainsaws and hauling the wood doesn't add up to more than a few gallons worth. You can save THOUSANDS of dollars heating with wood.

[JohnR]

Supposed to be a more up to date Mexican fuel price link

http://www.mexicomike.com/database/runner/public/mx_fuel_prices_list.php

[The Professor]

We will carefully consider all our trips from now on. Never even thought about it before.

Going to Rhinebeck, and Hebron. Probably won't go to Davenport although we may be nearby.

[Ohio-Rider]

The corn pellet stoves have been around for quite awhile and up until a few years ago where very cheap to operate. The cost has gone up significantly since the farmers are getting a good price from the refineries for their corn, why would they sell it to us for less than the oil companies will give them for it. The oil companies have got us coming and going. If not for where I live, I’d be thinking about solar energy.