New Tedd's Catalog; I have been "violated"!

[wideglide38]

Cotton,
I agree with most regarding a law suit (expensive & time consuming) and also agree with you - it's a matter of principle!! Maybe a better approach would be negotiate with Ted to send you all the carbs their rebuild service generates since he is using your photos! If this fails, then pay a lawyer a $100-$200 to write a 'cease & desist' letter. Hopefully their is a club member who is a lawyer who can help you!
Best of luck, William

[rousseau]

Cotton
I found you some attorneys.

[46EL]

Maybe instead of now dragging him through the mud and letting everyone here take cheap shots at him contact him and at least give him a chance to possibly rectify the situation.
Slander and defamation of character at this point on this or any other forum is no way to respond to what happen.
Especially if you want to show you have a real and legitimate concern about your business and how it has affected you. .
And if you do not like his parts for some reason I do not ever remember him or anyone else I have bought parts from twisting my arm and forcing me to buy anything from them.
Also remember you might be dealing with a fellow AMCA Club Member and we all should try to have at least a little bit of respect for one another.
I'm not trying to minimize what happened but there are level headed ways of dealing with it and mob mentality on any forum isn't one of them. Jp.

[harleytoprock]

Maybe they use an emery roll on a stick. LOL

[T. Cotten]

Harleytoprock!

They even show a photo of my ancient Sunnen in my shop, with my one-of-a-kind torqueplate.

Their Sunnen is probably better!
(Unless they use a brake hone on a drill?)

....Cotten

[harleytoprock]

It's very sleezy and pathetic that Ted claims to perform this service and yet has no pictures of their own work.

[pisten-bully]

In most cases the website where the photo first appeared can be considered to be the publisher of the photo. Not 100% certain how forums such as this are treated, but an internet publisher should have copyright protection for anything that appears on their site, so if someone takes a photo off of a website without permission AND does not credit the photo to the original publisher then they are in violation of copyright laws. Having said that, it happens all the time and never gets to the point of lawyerin' up, either because it's too expensive and difficult to pursue, OR, more likely the original publisher requests that the copy-cat remove the pirated material and the copy-cats take it down or give credit to the source (as long as the original publisher gives them permission.)

[camsaure]

99% of anything I have ever got from Tedd's was inferior crap. Sorry to see that he has tried to use your reputation in order to try and "upgrade" his image. He is one of those types who is more interested in lining his own pockets and cares not one bit about this hobby. At least some vendors of repops have the decency to tell you if the repops need "adjusting" in order to work. Apparently he has no interest in upfront honesty and integrity. Some people will do anything for a buck and apparently he is another shining example. I do not order anything from him. I hope he cuts his own throat. He crapped in his own bed and now he can lay in it as far as I am concerned.

[harleytoprock]

Cotten, I certainly hope that Ted gets what he derserves and that you come out shining. How ever, I don't think that its proves ownership because you listed the photos on a forum first. Just because you published them first doesn't me they are yours. You really need to talk to a good lawyer becuase we all don't know what were talking about.

[len dowe]

Tom,
Wouldn't the picture have to be copyrighted in order for some action be taken? Just asking is all as I know that some photographers have theirs copyrighted for just this reason.
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you and that ted is sleazy for doing this and I for one really appreciate the help and advice that you give out freely in order to help somebody out on their projects.
I mean really ted? couldn't he just use his own picture if in fact he is doing carb rebuilding. Doesn't bother me not buying anything from him. His stuff sucks anyway and who would trust a rebuild from him, not me.

[T. Cotten]

Harleytoprock!

My last message shows where I posted it to this forum last year, and it probably wasn't the first time.

I posted it to another forum four years ago: http://www.hydra-glide.com/phpBB3/vi...hp?f=71&t=7196, and other forums as well.

What goes on a forum stays on a forum.

.....Cotten

[harleytoprock]

How would you prove that it is your photo? Couldn't their lawers say that this photo
is owned by V-Twins and had been in their files.? A V-twin employee must have let it leak out into Cotten's possession. How does anyone prove that they own a photo? Maybe you need to have "Cotten" printed over your photo images in the future.

[T. Cotten]

Here it is online, folks: http://www.vtwinmfg.com/webapp/wcs/s..._142660_142662

Compare it to my posts here: http://www.antiquemotorcycle.org/bbo...M61B-Carb-body

I need a referral to an appropriate attorney.

......Cotten

[jellywrestler]

I just got my new Tedd V-Twin catalog,
and opened first to the page 667 Linkert listing of course.

have you checked the other 666 pages?

[BoschZEV]

Since the infringement is now in hardcopy catalogs around the world in the thousands, I must leave it to a professional advocate to assess the damage, and an appropriate settlement,

Once you find an attorney who specializes in intellectual property I predict they will tell you that at this point there are no damages whatever to collect, since (presumably) you didn't register your photos with the Copyright Office. A photograph, article in a club magazine, painting, etc. is copyrighted "at birth," but damages accrue only from the point forward from the time the copyright is registered. Further, assuming the photographs you say are yours have been on the web for over three months, the amount you can collect is limited to only the actual damage caused to you and/or profits made directly from you. That is, if you could somehow prove the people who violated your copyright earned an additional profit of, say, $100 that they otherwise would not have made, that is the total amount of damages owed to you.

If you wanted to pursue this to right a wrong in the world, great, but you better count on paying entirely out of your pocket to do it. You can still register the copyright now. But, since the three month window has elapsed, and since the provable additional profit of having a couple of extra photos in catalogs printed from that point forward is likely to be very small, it is very unlikely you will find an intellectual property attorney willing to take this on for 1/3 of any eventual damages. You will have to pay their $300-$500 (or more)/hour fee, plus expenses, yourself to pursue this.