Need help to ID Some Pushrods, Henderson? Indian?

[MMasa]

I need some help with the ID of the pushrods in these pictures. I got several of each in with a load of parts I just got.
The ball end on the long one looks like the end shown in an Excelsior parts book that I have but I don't know. The shorter one has a bottom that looks like something I saw on an early Indian. Again, I don't know for sure.