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  • Antique Cycle Tags and Registration Fees--A Call for Reform and Equality

    This issue probably has been raised before, but I wonder if our club has given any serious consideration to lobbying state legislatures in the states which have unfavorable licensing fees applicable to antique and classic motorcycles. A related issue is whether we want to ask states which do not offer antique license tags to provide them, as well as taking a position on the various (and extremely inconsistent) definitions of “antique” when used in state motor vehicle licensing laws.
    I have done a very quick and superficial internet search into some state’s laws pertaining to the issues. Some states recognize the fact that old bikes use the roads less with discounts on registration fees and one-time-only fees. Other states charge an annual premium for antique motorcycles, in addition to the regular licensing fees. A few states do not permit bikes bearing "antique" tags to be used for daily transportation, but limit their use to meets and parades.
    Without offering legal advice or representing the accuracy of the laws I have located, I will mention just a few examples of the disparate treatment afforded to old motorcycles. (I am sure that some of our members in states I mention will correct me if the laws have been changed since the publications I am citing were written.)
    Arkansas seems to have the most pro-antique law, with a one-time charge of $5.00 for an antique license tag, “which shall be valid while the motorcycle is owned by the applicant without the payment of any additional fee, tax, or license.”
    Georgia appears to charge an annual registration fee of $20 for antique bike plates.
    Kansas charges a one-time $40 registration fee for antique motorcycles, “and once paid shall not be required to be renewed.”
    Mississippi imposes a one-time fee of $25 to issue antique cycle plates, and includes all bikes more than 25 years old. No annual registration fee is charged after that.
    North Carolina, on the other hand, penalizes riders of antique motorcycles by charging an annual fee of $10 in addition to the usual annual licensing and registration fees. Antique bikes are those at least 35 years old.
    Pennsylvania has a strange combination of laws. Classic and antique bikes are charged a one-time registration fee, but may not be used for “general daily transportation” and only may be ridden for “participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation [no more than one day per week] and similar uses.”
    Texas allows you to choose between licensing bikes more than 25 years old as classic bikes (for an annual fee of $15, in addition to the regular fee), or as antiques, for $10 a year total. However, if you choose the cheaper antique tag, you may not ride the bike “for regular transportation,” but are limited to meets, parades, etc.
    West Virginia also has a two-tier system of laws applicable to bikes more than 25 years old: depending on whether you want to ride the bike (“classic”) or just show it (“antique”). The upshot is a 50 year-old bike is not an “antique” if you want to ride it to work. Huh?
    Wisconsin has a rule more strict than the AMCA 35-year rule: The 1945 rule. That’s right, your ’49 panhead is not an antique in Wisconsin. But that’s okay, if you register the bike as an antique in Cheesehead Country, you can use it only for “special occasions such as parades and display purposes.” Hey, the price is right: $5.00.
    Here’s a far out proposal to get the discussion going: Let’s lobby to take over the old bike registration process nationwide. All AMCA members will be able to get an “antique” plate or “classic” plate which we will have made for our members for a reasonable fee, most of which we will remit to the state where the bike is mainly kept. We should be able to lower the cost in those states where the antiques are being charged a premium over regular registration fees, eliminate the “outlaw factor” which makes fugitives out of those who illegally ride their antique bike to the pharmacy in several states, and put our logo on the rear of all our members’ bikes.
    Why not, in this era of privatizing prisons and other governmental functions can’t the AMCA take over registering old motorcycles? Could be good for membership.
    I will be happy to serve on any committee created to look into the unequal treatment our members in some states receive from motor vehicle registration officials and laws. I would appreciate it if those of you in the listed states and other states with knowledge of the registration fees and regulations currently in existence can contact me to validate the above information and supplement it. Thanks.

    Roy D. Wasson
    Original Nightrider Roywasson@bellsouth.net
    Fax (305) 666-0010
    Phone (305) 666-5053

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    Hi Roy:
    I for one, am impressed with your proposal, although to get all those states to agree to taking over their various beurocracies is an awesome task.
    Here's another suggestion for you. In British Columbia, we have government insurance that comes along with your licence tag. We have two types of plates, "antique" and "collector". The first is restricted while the second isn't quite as much. I have a multi vehicle collector plate so my insurance can be switched to various pre-approved bikes.
    Maybe we should get into the insurance business as well
    Pete Gagan, prez

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    • #3
      Antique and Collectible Insurance

      Pete:

      I like your idea about getting into the insurance business so we could keep some of the money we put into that industry among friends. I think that one way to get into the area without underwriting the risks ourselves would be to approach an insurer with a track record of writing motorcycle policies and promoting that company as its agent. The insurer might recognize the lesser risk of writing policies to those who are responsible enough to be affiliated with the AMCA. Perhaps we could offer training courses to obtain still lower rates.

      I am guessing that the regulatory red tape would be too burdensome for us to become the actual underwriters of m/c policies (at least in some states)If we have any insurance agents in the club now, maybe they could provide us with more information about breaking into that business.

      At the very least we should be able to leverage our membership size into some favorable relationship with bike insurance companies. Maybe we could take a "finders fee" from the premiums of members who buy new policies, and ask the insurers to offer reduced rates in exchange for promoting them.

      I wonder, for example, what kind of affiliation the Carol Nash insurance brokerage has with Classic Bike Magazine. Nash runs huge ads and sponsors the classified pages so that subscribers can run free ads to sell their bikes. Maybe our editorial staff should inquire about the deal they have going. I would be happy to serve on an "insurance committee" (not a one-man committee) to explore these ideas further if you and/or the board of directors see fit.


      Roy

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      • #4
        Hi Roy:
        Carol Nash owes her very existence to the Vintage Motorcycle Club, who made her their official insurance broker, and got a commision from her. That's how they ended up with a treasury of over 1,000,000 pounds sterling.
        The big difference is that insurance (and licensing) in England is the same all over, as there are no States involved. Your volunteerism is noted. I assume you will be in Eustis? Lets talk further.
        Pete

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        • #5
          State Laws on Antique Bike Plates--Louisiana

          Here printed verbatim and without comments from the Peanut Gallery (Nightrider is rarely this silent), is the Louisiana law on antique motorcycle registrations and tags. I will continue to quote and paraphrase the laws of the various states as we work toward seeking enactment of the best combination of features.

          LOUISIANA REVISED STATUTES

          TITLE 47. REVENUE AND TAXATION

          CHAPTER 4. VEHICLE REGISTRATION LICENSE TAX

          La. R.S. 47:463.8 (2003)



          § 463.8 Antique license plates and license plates for antique motor vehicles and motorcycles

          A. (1) The secretary shall establish and issue special license plates for antique motor vehicles, including both pickup trucks and trucks with a gross weight in excess of six thousand pounds, and motorcycles, which are twenty-five years old or older, and shall establish and issue symbols for antique license plates. To obtain such plates and symbols, an applicant shall provide to the secretary a notarized affidavit that the vehicle or motorcycle has not been and will not be materially altered or modified from the original manufacturer's specifications. In addition, such vehicle or motorcycle shall be used primarily for special occasions such as exhibitions, club activities, parades, or other functions of the public interest, or for necessary testing, maintenance, and storage purposes. The plates shall be available upon application through the applicant's local licensing bureau.

          (2) These license plates for antique motor vehicles shall be used in lieu of the regular motor vehicle registration license plates and shall be issued for the life of the vehicle. Such plates may be issued as antique personalized prestige plates for motor vehicles only in the style for personalized prestige plates authorized by R.S. 47:463.2, and such plates shall be used in lieu of the regular motor vehicle registration license plates and shall be issued for the life of the vehicle. The plates shall become permanent to the vehicle on which the plates are issued and shall be transferred with the vehicle if it is sold upon payment of established transfer fees. Alternatively, the secretary may allow antique license plates to be used on an antique motor vehicle if the owner of the vehicle presents the antique license plates to the secretary for approval and the antique license plates were issued by this state in the same year as the model year of the motor vehicle. The license plates issued for antique motorcycles shall be used in lieu of the regular registration license plates and shall be issued for the life of the motorcycle.

          B. (1)(a) Prior to August 15, 1999, the fee for issuing the license plates provided for in this Section shall be a one-time fee of fifty dollars for each plate for the special plates for antique motor vehicles or motorcycles, and a one-time fee of fifty dollars for the personalized prestige plates for antique motor vehicles.

          (b) After August 15, 1999, the fee for issuing such special plates for antique motor vehicles or motorcycles shall be a one-time fee of twenty-five dollars and a one-time fee of fifty dollars for the personalized prestige plates.

          (2) The fee for issuing the license plates provided for in this Section to trucks with a gross vehicle weight in excess of six thousand pounds shall be the same as for other antique motor vehicles.

          (3) The fee for transferring a special license plate for an antique motor vehicle or an antique license plate to a subsequent owner of the vehicle shall be three dollars.

          (4) Vehicles shall be registered as antique, classic, or vintage, upon application for registration and payment of the one-time fee. When the applicant provides a notarized statement that the vehicle being registered has not been used on a public highway during a period of non-registration, fees and penalties for that period shall not be assessed.

          C. (1) In addition to the plates issued as provided in Subsections A and B of this Section, the secretary shall establish and issue collector plates for special interest vehicles. The vehicles shall be used primarily for special occasions such as exhibitions, club activities, parades, and other functions of public interest, or for necessary testing, maintenance, and storage purposes.

          (2) As used in this Subsection, "special interest vehicle" means a motor vehicle which is twenty-five years old or older, has not been materially modified or altered from the original manufacturer's specifications, and is being preserved by hobbyists because of its historic interest.

          (3) The secretary shall determine the color and design of the plates in conjunction with the Louisiana Region Antique Auto Club of America.

          (4) The fee for issuing such collector plates shall be five dollars a year, and such plates are to be renewed every five years.

          D. Beginning July 1, 2001, all license plates issued for antique motor vehicles shall be issued upon payment of a one-time fee. No additional payment of the regular motor vehicle registration license fee shall be necessary for any owner to permanently retain such plate after that date.

          E. The secretary shall provide by rules and regulations for the implementation of this Section. Oversight review of the rules and regulations shall be conducted by the Joint Legislative Committee on Transportation, Highways and Public Works.

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          • #6
            "Antique Motorcycle" Tags available again in Florida

            After a period of being unavailable, license tags are again available for an "Antique Motorcycle" in Florida. There are three sorts of tags you can use. First, for the regular annual fee, bikes more than 30 years old will be issued a renewable "Antique Motorcycle" tag. Second, if your bike was made before 1946, you can get a "Horseless Carriage MC" or permanent "Antique Motorcycle" tag without payment of any annual fee. Third, if you have a 1973 or older bike and you have (or can find) a tag for any motorcycle which was issued in the year of your bike's manufacture, you can use that one, after getting the tag "authenticated" by the Department of Motor Vehicles.

            Many thanks to Fred Dickinson, Executive Director of the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles, for his quick response to my letter requesting that Antique Motorcycle tags be once again made available to us in Florida.

            Roy, the (Original) Nightrider

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