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  • #31
    The tinwork.

    The gas tank looks pretty good, other than the paint of course. Someone repainted the whole thing at some point, probably with good old lead barn paint. There are glimpses of what appears to be original paint in a few places, but I think it's mostly gone. In this first shot you can see that one of the threaded mounting holes is pulled out, and the seam just to the right of that hole is split and will need to be re-soldered.





    Here is the other side. The priming injector and shut off valve are there. I'll need mounting straps and I only have one mounting screw, not sure if it's original.





    Here's a close-up of the split seam:





    The front fender does not have the skirts on the sides of it. The 1916 Indian Parts Catalog shows the front fender as skirted, all one item. I'm not sure if it they were originally stamped out of one piece of steel, or made from three pieces. Any insights on this would be appreciated. My fender looks very much like the fender on the 1913 Indian Twin in the Anamosa, IA Museum. I'm not sure if my fender has been modified, or replaced with an earlier fender, or if they installed an earlier fender right out of the factory due to a special request or something. I may never know. Here's a pic:





    Here's what a 98 year old leather mudflap looks like. I think I can save it.





    The rear fender appears serviceable.







    Kevin

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    • #32
      Kevin, my rear stand set up is like the picture you have of the '17. In '17 the rear stand was changed and doesn't have the arms on it anymore, so the lugs are not needed. My bike was lacking the stand when I got it and as yet haven't located an original but was able to score a repro to hold the bike up in the meantime. Dale

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      • #33
        Thanks Dale.
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        • #34
          Very cool Kevin, keep it coming - fun stuff watching. I have a 14 twin project, I hope to start on maybe by the end of the year. Very cool machine you have there.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tom Lovejoy View Post
            Very cool Kevin, keep it coming - fun stuff watching. I have a 14 twin project, I hope to start on maybe by the end of the year. Very cool machine you have there.
            Thanks Tom.

            Pictures of your '14 would be cool.

            Kevin

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            • #36
              from old pc 2178_resize.jpgfrom old pc 2161_resize.jpgHere's mine, really more of a bit's of 14 :-) That's my Dad on it after I quickly assembled the parts, just to make it look like a motocycle :-) He was always a good sport, what ever I brought home. Engine and trans are now rebuilt, I have a later 3 speed in it.

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              • #37
                Nice bike Tom. It looks good in front of the Model T.

                Kevin

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                • #38
                  Question for you who know more than me.

                  After looking at the pictures of Tom's 1914, and scouring the internet for pictures, I've begun to wonder if my frame and chassis are from an earlier model, for three reasons; 1 - the front fender that is on it appears to be 1914 or earlier, 2 - the rear stand stops on the swing-arm appear to be like a 1914 or earlier bike, and 3 - the skip-tooth chain and rear sprocket don't appear to be correct for a 1916 Powerplus.

                  The engine is clearly 1916 Powerplus, based on the number. I don't know if a 1916 engine will fit in an earlier frame. A lot can happen in 98 years.

                  Anyone who feels they can add something to this discussion, please do so. It just gets curiouser and curiouser!

                  Cheers!

                  Kevin

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                  • #39
                    AMA Mid-Ohio Vintage Rally

                    I'm back from Mid-Ohio and Wauseon. Could not have asked for better weather. My mission was to A. Find old Indian parts, and 2. Relax. There weren't many old Indian parts at Mid-Ohio, but it was great for relaxing. I got to camp out:




                    Drink brewed beverages with interesting people:




                    And ride my motorsickle:




                    ...with my GPS:




                    There were also some great old bikes there. Here are just a few:
















                    Coming up next - Wauseon.

                    Kevin

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                    • #40
                      AMCA Vintage Motorcycle Rally at Wauseon

                      As expected, Wauseon was better for finding Indian parts, old and repop. And again, the weather was great. I got most of the parts I need for the hand brake and foot brake (I had none of the brake parts, not even the hub or drum) and nearly all of the parts I needed for the handlebar controls. I found most of the parts I need for the clutch pedal and hand clutch controls. I found a spare carb, a kick-start arm, a spare slider gear for the transmission, chain guards, and a few other things. The biggest benefit though, was all the information I got from the people I talked to that know a lot more about these bikes than I do.

                      I talked to several people in-the-know about my question about the early fender, early rear stand stops, and skip link chain on my bike. The general consensus seemed to be that the front fender was probably changed at some point, the rear chain and sprocket was certainly changed at some point, and the style of rear stand stops that my bike has were still being used into 1916, even though that's not how the brochure shows them. The factory probably used them until they were used up. And a lot can happen in 100 years.

                      I got to watch old motorcycles race:






                      Here are a couple of the bikes that were out there on the track:






                      And get this, Jay Springsteen and Joe Roeder did some exhibition laps:




                      As usual, there was lots of old iron at the meet, and also as usual I didn't do a very good job of getting pictures. But here are a few:

















                      Next, removing fossilized tires, and WTF did they do to my rear hub?


                      Kevin

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                      • #41
                        Great pix!

                        Loved the WLA... and the diversity of cool stuff.

                        Cheers,

                        Sirhr

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                        • #42
                          It looks like a WLA... doesn't it.

                          Kevin

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                          • #43
                            I almost forgot to mention; the strippers at Mid-Ohio were really cheap:




                            Kevin

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                            • #44
                              Great pix!

                              Loved the WLA... and the diversity of cool stuff.

                              Cheers,

                              Sirhr
                              WLA??????????
                              Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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                              • #45
                                very cool, thanks for posting. I would love to go see those races some day.

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